Military Collector Group Post, Nov.1/97 Index: BASIC JAPANESE RADIO COLLECTION PART IV; By Bill Howard Technical Help! 1920-30's British Tube?; Roland Needs; WARBIRD PARTS AND MEMORABILIA;Catalog Available HUMOR; ******************************************************** BASIC COLLECTION OF JAPANESE RADIOS , PART IV; In Part 1, we introduced you to some of the most common Japanese radios sets that can be found., in Part 2, we discussed the basic reference works and in Part 3 we looked at where to find some of these radios. Now let us take a look at what makes up a ?Type? radio station. The most widely issued Japanese radios were issued in two or more wooden transport chests. These chests had a removable front panel which had a contents list inside under a plastic cover. The chests had leather covered rope handles at each end and may have had a metal carry handle on the top. Usually these chests are found with out the rope handles and if the rope is present, the leather is missing having rotted off many years ago. Typically the No 1 chest contained the transmitter, the receiver and an accessory bag which held all the items needed to set up the station and get ready to go on the air. These accessories were usually the headphones and the key, Sometimes there were two headset/throat mike combos as part of the contents. The actual accessories depend upon the type radio set in question. Typically the No 2 chest contained the antenna wires, counterpoise wires and the hand cranked generator. A radio squad of a Japanese signal Unit had about seven men assignd to it. Two of them were probably engaged in setting up the antenna, one more was unpacking and setting up the generator, two more were busy unpacking the transmitter and receiver and getting them set up. the other two were ?securing? the area and the sergeant in charge was making certain everything got done properly. Of course this was the ideal situation and as those of us who were in the military know, you never have all the people you are supposed to have. While the radios can be found, the chests are harder to find. They are also sometimes butchered as the GI who sent it home, wanted it for something else. The inner panels have been removed so something bigger could be put in it. On average these chests have sold for $125.00 when complete. With the inner panels removed, about half of that figure. Sometimes the inside panels can be replaced, but the cost brings the total investment back up to the $125.00 mark. Some stations, such as the Type 94-2 B set came in four chests. One chest held the transmitter, one chest held the receiver, another chest held a gasoline powered generator and the fourth chest held two large cans of gasoline. The chests holding the transmitter and receivers also had many drawers for the other accessories. The generator took up the entire chest as did the gasoline cans. Another chest has been found which held two complete Type 94-6 stations. Two generators, two radios, two accessory packs, two of everthing needed to place the sets in operation. This chest was found with all the contents still in place. Sold to a militaria dealer, it was being sold off piece meal. That made in nice as I was able to find some of the items that I was missing. If it had been mine, I would have been tempted to keep it intact. The GI who brought it home had the forsight to make certain that he had two of everything. I was told he got it from a Japanese supply depot and I agree as most of the items were in un-issued conditon. The larger , portable stations, came in more chests, simply because there were more components. The radio direction finder set came in at least four chests and I suspect there may have been a fifth chest. As a general rule, the GI?s did not bring home as many chests as they did radios. If you encounter these chests, do not pass them up as you may find the radio to fit it. If nothing else, they can be used to store what ever you have until either the correct chest does show up or the radio(s) for your chests can be found. Among the many accessories that made up a station were: Transmitter Key, Receiver headset, Remote keying cable, Antenna wire, Technical Manual, all of which were in the No 1 Chest. In the other chests, the following accessories were listed on the contents list : Transmitter Coils (4) Headset with cable, Transmitter crystals ( Two Type 3 stored in the drawer with transmitter coils) Voltage Meter ,Chart, Sling (For the radio set, Remote cable to connect transmitter to remote control box, Type 3 Antenna Retriever, Rope (2) Generator Accessory Bag, with Power cable and sling, Antenna Retrievers ( 2 ) Type 3 -B Wooden reels(Like a kite or fishing line with the Counterpoise wires ,Type 2 B Spare Antenna Wire---Inverted L use--Generator, Model Number Type XX, (With hand cranks and 1 small bulb) , No 7 repair Kit, 4 each Type X Dry cell batteries (1.5 volt for filament supply.) Type 92 Battery powered light, an item translated as CANDOL container, 100 grams of solder, 30 meters of rubber covered insulated wire, 2 rolls of rubber cotton tape ( assume it is electrical tape), 1 roll of Cotton tape , 20 grams of 1 mm Hemp yarn , 1 brush, 1 Lube oil (Assume an oil can),2 small blubs 2 cloths (probably for cleaning) 2 neon tubes (Replacement for tuning indicator in transmitter) Assorted screws, resistors , capacitors , 2 # 3 dry cell batteries (1.5 volt for filament), 10 B Batteries (22.5 volt) 2- C Batteries ( 4.5 volt), Dry cell battery for Type 92 small light, 2 - C Batteries As you can tell for the above listing, there was more to a Japanese wireless station than one might imagine. A lot more than what made up a US station., however many of the items that were part of the Japanese station, were items carried by a U.S radio crew but were not considered part of the radio set. The above description is a ?Type? Japanese Ground station. An aircraft radio station is some what simpler as it is not transported from site to site but stays with the aircraft. Generally a ?Type? aircraft set had a transmitter, a receiver, a vibrator power supply for the receiver, a dynamotor for the transmitter, a junction box to connect to the intercom system and some form of antenna change over control. It is not known if the cabling was considered part of the aircraft or part of the station, but does it really matter? You need the cables to hook everything together. Lamps, candles, solder , batteries and so on were not needed and were not part of the station. THE WILLIAM L. HOWARD ORDNANCE TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE MUSEUM e-mail wlhoward@gte.net Telephone AC 813 585-7756 ******************************************************** Technical Help! 1920-30's British Tube?; Dennis, I was just loaned a Norwegian Home brew made by the resistance for study. Here is an extract of what I am writing. Can you think of any tube that might have been used as an RF amp in this set. British, 1920's or 30's, probably made by Phillips. On first glance, it looks like any other home brewed radio of the 1920's. The most distinguishing feature was the excellent cabinet it came in. Although "Home Made" the wooden cabinet was an excellent piece of workmanship, a tribute to the Norwegian furniture makers, no doubt, who made it. The radio is made from components that were supplied by the British. While most of the components were taken from 1920s and 1930's stocks, the tube panel was custom made, Interestingly enough, all the components were made so that they could be assembled with out resorting to a soldering iron! It took me a while to figure out what the circuit was but it turned out to be a three stage regenerative receiver. The first stage was an RF amplifier of sorts, the second stage was a regenerative grid leak detector and the last stage was an audio amplifier. The tube line up was a Phillips B 443 as an audio amplifier, a Phillips B 409 as the detector and an unknown tube as the RF amplifier. Unknown as the glass broke on the trip to Florida. My guess is that is was a XXXX. All tubes were the four pin continental base which made replacement very difficult. The tubes did not have sockets as we think of sockets. A bakelite board had been drilled at the factory and the sockets installed. The connections underneath were then soldered, presumably at the factory to screw terminal binding posts. All the user had to do was screw the panel to a wood base and start wiring. All filaments under the board were soldered in series. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have any guesses as to what the broken RF amp tube might have been, or a sourse for a replacement. please contact; Bill Howard THE WILLIAM L. HOWARD ORDNANCE TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE MUSEUM e-mail wlhoward@gte.net Telephone AC 813 585-7756 ******************************************************** Roland Needs; Need power supply PP-3256/APN, mount MT-2683/APN, antenna(s?) coupler CU-1013/APN-151, cables and antenna(s?) for Loran Receiver R1117/APN-151. Can anyone help? Thanks Roland Maruska E-Mail: wachstockj@juno.com ******************************************************** WARBIRD PARTS AND MEMORABILIA;Catalog Available Dennis, I just got J. Wisler's catalogue of Warbird Parts. He has three pages of radio related items. The total catalogue is 57 pages long and is well worth the $2.00 it cost. If any body is interested, the address to write to is WARBIRD PARTS AND MEMORABILIA 2710 Clark Road Tampa, Florida 33618 His phone number is: AC 813-968-5048 Fax no is 813- 968-5048 Bill Howard ******************************************************** HUMOR; In a recent issue of "Meat & Poultry" magazine, editors quoted from "Feathers," the publication of the California Poultry Industry Federation, telling the following story: It seems the US Federal Aviation Administration has a unique device for testing the strength of windshields on airplanes. The device is a gun that launches a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at approximately the speed the plane flies. The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the carcass impact, it'll survive a real collision with a bird during flight. It seems the British were very interested in this and wanted to test a windshield on a brand new, speedy locomotive they're developing. They borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded the chicken and fired. The ballistic chicken shattered the windshield, went through the engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the back wall of the engine cab. The British were stunned and asked the FAA to recheck the test to see if everything was done correctly. The FAA reviewed the test thoroughly and had one recommendation: "Use a thawed chicken." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A young man was delighted to finally be asked home to meet the parents of the young woman he'd been seeing for some time. He was quite nervous about the meeting, though, and by the time he arrived punctually at the doorstep he was in a state of gastric distress. The problem developed into one of acute flatulence, and halfway through the canapes the young man realized he couldn't hold it in one second longer without exploding. A tiny fart escaped. "SPOT!" called out the young woman's mother to the family dog, lying at the young man's feet. Relieved at the dog's having been blamed, the young man let another, slightly larger one go. "Spot!" she called out sharply. "I've got it made," thought the fellow to himself. One more and I'll feel fine. So he let loose a really big one. "Spot!" shrieked the mother. "Get over here before he shits on you!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Jewish lawyer was troubled by the way his son had turned out, and went to see his rabbi about it. "I brought him up in the faith, gave him a very expensive bar mitzvah, cost me a fortune to educate him. Then he tells me last week he has decided to be a Christian. Rabbi, where did I go wrong?" "Funny you should come to me," said the rabbi. 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Only a partial number was given with them,but it sounded like it went to the MAB,so I ordered a few,what the hell,you can always find a use for a canvas bag. They turned out to indeed be for an MAB. What is most confusing,& has happined several times with radios that Fair Radio had large stocks of for many years. This when these stocks finaly sold out,it's as though all the radios desapeared off the face of the earth,never to be seen or heard from again. Dennis Starks; MILITARY RADIO COLLECTOR/HISTORIAN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sarge@nist.gov (Brian Scace) To: military-radio-guy@juno.com (Dennis R Starks) Subject: Re: Revised backmail lsit I just printed it all and gave it a first quick read. The MAB/DAV stuff is fascinating. Just a thought on the existance of these radios: There has been a few articles in the various journels in the field of History of Technology regarding the immediate postwar divestiture of military equipment by the U.S. One thing that becomes clear is that significant stocks of equipment used in the Pacific Theatre, even the unissued stockpiles for the aborted invasion of the Japanese home islands, were destroyed or dumped into the sea. One of the effects of this policy is the comparitive rarity of many then common items of military issue, such as un-issued early pattern Marine HBT's, while Navy marked HBT's are still common. The Navy ones were not common overseas issue. Most stocks having remained stateside, they survived. I wonder whether the amount of MABs and DAVs that Fair and others picked up on indicates that these were stored stateside without a purpose, what with the disbanding of the Para-Marines and the intro of the BC-1000 late in the war to the Naval Services. I would suspect that may also explain the relative scarcity of complete TBX's, their having been in general use early in the island hopping campaigns. By the way, I was reading VanderGrif's after action report on Guadalcanal last night and found mention of the TBX as the common unit in use by the Corps in that campaign. I don't know if I'm just repeating what you already know, but I find this sort of history fascinating. I am ready for more info. P.S. So who the H--- did use the DAV, anyway? JUNV0CG4ED0 ÐGy¤*?¼Î?â¼î,?8ÆsíÈh»?ì:W«dQP1Q·:^?Fð]?LÚ[sí/`H>?'H??Ö?q·âCÈ5ó{þ?_S?ÛEw?ü?ö.aVöcµ·âUU¢ÖißôÝoCoС¼ðÄkÇ÷d]æp)HO6DÝ7®&ÙóéèÈ$4?Ë?¸ÍØ?g ³:ßȬ5ôÁkËü+??$ÄaT??m¯KDI7¤æ3Ùu»åëZ¡ÕÁIÝ·tÓä `tÎ(ozWhile I'm sure your suggestion of larg scale dumping dose have a beering on the scarcity of most all Navy equipment today,the MAB however was available early in the war(1942). It is it's use that can't be documented. As you pointed out with the TBX,why can we find referanse to it's use but not the MAB/DAV. Also true that the introduction of the BC-1000 would have limited the need for the MAB/DAV,but remember the BC-611 was being used right along side the BC-1000,& as we know the use of both these radios is well documented. I suspect we will learn more of all when we can find some historical documentations of the smaller scale Marine Corps actions that normaly took place in conjunction with Australian or other Alied troops ealiar in the war. Keep looking! . Dennis ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MORE MAB FEEDBACK Boy, does this get confusing! Re: MAB: I have the unit, an original manual, the earphones (sans = skull cap) and an unattached RS-38 (they are "common" at Hamfests). My = intent of doing an article on it for Electric Radio has been stymied by = "no-one", including Fair Radio, having the ant. or vibrapak. I did make = these observations: The unit would have been a real bitch in anything = approaching jungle conditions. I live in a semi-tropical area, (Florence= AL, on the TN river), and I could well imagine trying to avoid heat pros= tration while wearing the skull cap -- as well as not drowning the earpho= nes in sweat! THIS IS WHY THE DESIGNS OF BOTH THE PRC-35,& 36 WERE DROPPED. ALSO THE REASON THE HS-30 HEADPHONES WERE OPTIONAL ON THE MAB. THE VIBRATOR POWER SUPPLY HAS BEEN EXTINCT FOR MANY YEARS,THE ANTENNA CAN BE FOUND AT A HAMFEST ONCE IN A WHILE,THIS WHERE MY LAST TWO CAME FROM. BESIDES,WHO SAID THIS HOBBY WAS EASY? IF IT WERE WHO'D WANNA DO IT? I determined that the snap-together connectors take only abt. 2 = pounds of direct pull to separate -- and only 1 pound of side jerk. Ever= y whippy limb around would cheerfully snag the dangling cords! Worse: on page 11, sections 4-1 and 4-2 of the manual, it mention= s a "rushing noise" in the earphones, when the Rx is on: this means the = operator would have been effectively deaf! Just from these three things you can see why the HT-type set would = have been far more popular, even tho not as effective, radio-wise. THIS ALSO TRUE,BUT AS WAS NOTED IN THE ARTICLE I SENT OUT,BOTH THE MAB/DAV HAD DISADVANTAGES,& THE BC-611 IT'S ADVANTAGES. THIS IS ALSO 1942,THERE IS ONLY ONE BACKPACK RADIO IN EXISTENCE THAT HAS A SQUELCH PROVISION,& IT'S NOT FIELDED IN ANY QUANTITY YET. THIS THE BC-1000/SCR-300 WHICH CHANGED TACTICAL COMMUNICATIONS FOR EVER. ALSO LATER VARIANTS OF THE BC-611 WERE ALSO MODIFIED TO USE A THROAT MIC & HEADPHONES. WHEN THE BC-611 & AN-190 WERE USED THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR MORE GANGLY THAN THE DAV. BY THE WAY THE MAB WAS COMPLETELY WATER TIGHT,THE BC-611 NOT. THE GERMANS DID THINK VERY HIGHLY OF THE BC-611,THEY MARVELED AT IT'S SIZE & MADE SEVERAL GLORIOUS WRITTEN REPORTS ON IT. THE JAPANESE ALSO GAVE IT NO BETTER PRAISE THAN TO CLONE IT AFTER THE WAR AS THE JBC-611. Make it four things: the radio-man was/is a good target. I'd like = to be able to throw the darned thing away from me if I's being targeted = too! Don't strap that bull's-eye to me! I KNOW VERY WELL, I WAS A RADIOMAN,& DID WEAR A TARGET ON MY BACK! THROWING IT AWAY ISN'T/WASN'T ALLOWED! Ab) 0 19971102 02:52:13: . [17359]: 108: numMessages 0 items.GetCount() 0 19971102 03:54:20: . [17359]: SetStatusText: Preparing for transmission ... 19971102 03:54:20: . [17359]: SetStatusText: Initializing modem 19971102 03:54:20: . [17359]: 164: Initializing serial communication 19971102 03:54:21: . [17359]: 199: &F&C1&D2&K3%C0 19971102 03:54:54: . [17359]: 294: Network 4179986517/2055620062,CompuServe 19971102 03:54:54: . [17359]: 164: Waiting for a connection... 19971102 03:54:54: . [17359]: SetStatusText: Waiting for a connection... 19971102 03:54:54: . [17359]: network 4179986517/2055620062,CompuServe 19971102 03:54:54: . [17359]: SetStatusText: Authenticating... 19971102 03:54:55: . 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