Starband Nova Antenna Arm
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Starband 360 Antenna (25 June
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Test | Result |
Download Speed |
1538 k bits/sec |
Upload Speed |
105 k bits/sec |
Latency |
293 ms * |
Jitter |
345 ms * |
Time | Rx signal EbN0 | deg F |
13:07 |
7.64 |
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13:28 |
6.77 |
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14:02 |
6.68 |
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15:40 |
7.02 |
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16:00 |
6.64 |
|
18:00 |
6.48 |
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18:25 |
6.38 |
|
19:00 |
6.45 |
|
21:00 |
6.25 |
38.5 |
22:00 |
6.37 |
37.8 |
05:37 |
5.55 |
33.6 |
06:38 |
5.65 |
33.1 |
07:30 |
5.55 |
33.3 |
08:00 |
5.64 |
34.0 |
09:00 |
6.12 |
37.0 |
10:00 |
6.60 |
39.9 |
11:00 |
7.76 |
45.3 |
12:00 |
7.93 |
68.0 |
13:00 |
7.91 |
68.4 |
14:00 |
7.50 |
59.3 |
15:00 |
6.83 |
66.7 |
16:40 |
7.20 |
64.4 |
17:35 |
7.02 |
58.6 |
18:00 |
6.56 |
56.7 |
20:00 |
6.31 |
48.6 |
23:00 |
6.31 |
42.3 |
07:14 |
6.04 |
36.9 |
12:14 |
8.06 |
70.2 |
Time |
Rx signal EbN0 |
06:30 |
6.44 |
07:00 |
6.50 |
07:40 |
6.88 |
08:00 |
7.00 |
09:23 |
7.02 |
09:51 |
7.90 |
10:30 |
8.21 |
11:00 |
8.32 |
12:19 |
8.04 |
15:30 |
7.20 |
16:30 |
7.28 |
23:04 |
6.91 |
07:22 |
5.42 |
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Time |
Signal |
12:49 |
0 |
12:54 |
7 |
12:55 |
7.5 |
12:56:00 |
7.64 |
12:57:00 |
7.76 |
1:00:00 |
7.76 |
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For quite a number of years there have been VSAT (Very Small Aperture Terminals) used for business purposes. For example the credit card readers at gas stations are connected to the credit verification center using VSATS. Gilat has been in this business for some time. The indoor box used for the StarBand 180 is the same unit used for the Skystar and Video Overlay units. It has three slots for the addition of custom features. The StarBand has the left slot for the USB interface. In a normal StarBand install a plate is installed that covers the DIP switches and the LAN port.
Recently Gilat joined up with Dish Network, Radio Shack and Microsoft to offer a home internet connection service called StarBand using similar (if not the same) technology as used for business VSAT applications.
Gilat holds many patents on sattelite related technology. The oldest is:
5053782 Commercial satellite communications system, Amiram Levinberg, Uzi Ram (Gilat Communication Systems Ltd.), Dec 13, 1989, 342/352 ; 342/132; 455/13.2
This system was designed for credit card verification like at gas stations were a VSAT antenna is on the roof of the station. It assignes each user a time slot.
This is NOT an optimum system for general internet use. For more on the implications of the long ping times associated with satellite operation see
Military Messaging over HF Radio and Satellite using STANAG 4406 Annex E and other white papers on the isode site.
The Starband Uplink is in the South East U.S. and they get severe weather that shuts down the system. This is deceptive because here in California is a nice sunny day. Too bad they located the uplind in such a poor weather location.
If you're shopping satellite systems, one of the questions to ask is how many hours of system down time is caused by bad weather?
This may not really be the case, I don't know.
If you are working on your system and your browser is not configured with a proxy enabled, your computer is naked on the internet. Anyone who knows how can access your hard drive and send you a virus. I think that's how my C: drive became erased. You may need to install a "firewall" package to protect your computer.
I have only had the system for a week and have called tech support (800 478-2722 #4) almost daily, and they keep saying that they are aware of the problem and working it. I don't know if the system worked before I signed up, or if it never worked.
When trying to use FTP to move jpeg files from my computer to my ISP, StarBand is impossible. There are many short data packets and the turnaround time is so long that the FTP program fails to work. In order to get the jpeg image loaded using FTP I needed to disconnect the StarBand USB cable and use my dial up modem. It took less that 10 seconds to make the FTP connection plus the file up load time of another 10 seconds, whereas the StarBand timed out after a minute or two. I have heard that cable modem and xDSL also suffer when trying to use FTP.
Mid Dec. 2000 - Box arrived but Starband scheduled and rescheduled the install.
16 Jan. - Once I was able to upload a photo using FTP, but other
times
I could not.
I thought that I was uploading web pages and got a "successful upload"
message, but when I tried to view them, the bottoms were cut off.
I have disconnected the StarBand, and will try again some time.
My phone line modem is much faster for all but very large file
downloads.
18 Jan. - They have fixed the Model 180 dropout problem, caused by my NIC being set for auto detect. The fix is to set a fixed IP address of 192.168.0.1 with a sub mask of 255.255.255.0. I am getting download speeds around 577 KB, but the latency is so long that I have disconnected the Model 180 and use my phone line.
26 Feb. - I started to use the system about a week ago. I was getting about 300 K bits/sec (30 K Bytes/sec) downloads and was able to send and receive email. On a few occasions I could use FTP, but not always. Today the system crashed. It came up after about 15 minutes, tech support did not the system was down until I told them.
This defiantly should not by your only link to the internet. It needs to be redone so that it can work in parallel with with a wired connection.
28 Feb. I was not able to upload *.TIF graphics files, when trying
to
view them there would be a message like bad data in line 38. 1 of
6 files would upload.
Using the phone line to do the upload was faster and worked 100% on
the first try.
1 March - after clicking on a link there was no response, I waited 120 seconds, but still no response, the poor latency problem is as bad as ever!
28 April 2001 - FTP has not worked for some time. Have added Norton Personal Firewall and Norton Antivirus 2001. They work as part of my hard drive backup system that uses Norton Ghost and a removable D: hard drive. Currently I do not use 127.0.0.1, i.e. I have IP Agent turned off. To use the phone connection I just double click my dialer, very simple to do.
Note that START\settings\control panel\Internet Options opens
the "Internet Properties" dialog box that you can also access through
IE.
These settings are global on your computer, not just for IE.
3 Jan 2002 - received the 360 upgrade package and sent back the 180.
after 4 hours with SB tech support thought that it was working.
4 Jan 2002 - after leaving the system on all night, it was not working
in the morning - after 13 hours with SB tech support it was not
working!
The 180 uninstall manual on page 8 says Mission Control 2.00.1 patch can be left on your system, but tech support insists it MUST be removed, who is correct? I was told things like "you must use IPA with the 360 it's different from the 180" and "the supplied USB cable is different from a standard USB cable" , are total Bull****! This just confirms the incompetence of the starband tech support system (including a number of "escalation" level support people). When the first level support tech gives you wrong information or has you do wrong things, like accepting an older version rather then keeping the newer version of some software that is already on your system it is almost impossible to recover. I ended up reinstalling WIN98, WIN98SE upgrade, my printer drivers, and there will be more to install as I need it. (IOmega ZIP drive, HP scanner, exter serial ports, etc that were removed because they may have been conflicting. The things that are conflicting are the three programs listed above.The monitor crash problem seems to go away when WgWLocalManager is turned off in START\msconfig\startup, but this slows the download speed from 988 KB/s to 50 KB/s based on http://www.pcpitstop.com download tests. NEW INFORMATION A friend that reads the starband forum told me that the 360 USB driver has a lot of incompatabilities and to use the LAN port instead. The procedure that worked was: The system is now working! 1:15 pm
- Uninstall the SB 360 software
- Install the LAN card (removed it yesterday) - confirm it's OK in my computer\properties\device manager
- reinstall the SB 360 software
- in mission control/tools - configure modem
- In Nortan Peresonal Firewall/options/advanced options\firewall "default block portal of doom trojan" disable 9874 and 9875.
- When configuring Norton Firewall rules do not use all ports, but instead check the single port shown.
4 Oct. 2003 - system working very poorly and each day gets noticeably worse. Download speed at PC Pit Stop was about 200 kB.
7 Oct. 2003 - Installed a new LNB. The old one was marked:
Gilat Satellite Networks Ltd.
Low Noise Block Down COnverter
p/n LN139100
Model NJR2544HWN
N.F. 0.5 dB
s/n 0Y1005966
This amplifier was installed with the notch filter that was removed when the new LNB is installed. The replacement amp is marked:
p/n LN139100
Model NJR2544HWN
N.F. 0.7 dB (0.2 higher noise figure than the original)
s/n 152022733
Showing the Before case with the Notch Filter installed.
Download speed was 452 kB after replacing the LNB and removing the Notch Filter.
This shows the new LNB installed without the Notch Filter and the signal reflection angles.
You can see that the metal rain gutter is blocking the upper part of the dish. This may no only degrade the signal because of the area blocked, but might also degrade more because of reflections canceling signals. The white material wrapped around the gutter is microwave absorber that stops reflections. Need to relocate the dish.
The dish is feed off axis. The feed horn is 45 degrees below a line from the center of the dish to the satellite. So the dish points 22.5 degrees lower than the signal path. In my case the dish points in such a way that it clears the rain gutter, BUT the signal is 22.5 degrees higher and so is partially blocked by the metal rain gutter.
All geostationary satellites are located over the equator and so twice a year, in the Fall as the Sun crosses the equatorial plane and again in the Spring there will be a time when the Sun is exactly behind the satellite and the microwave noise from the Sun will overpower the feeble signal from the satellite shutting down service. How long this lasts depends on the beam width of the dish which in turn depends on the frequency and the dish size.
Starband uses satellites at 101, 125 and 129 degrees Longitude. On 7 Oct. 2003 my StarBand service was blacked out about an hour and a half after I installed the new LNB. It was about 1:30 PDT when I noticed the Mission Control icon was black.
Using the calculator at Learfield Engineering and my location. Used Ku and 1 meter dissh diameter.
If I'm on the 129 deg W satellite the outage would be from 1:18 to 1:35 pm
If I'm on the 125 deg W satellite the outage would be from 12:59 to 1:17 pm
So I looks like I'm on the 129 degree bird.
LAN Settings & IPA
When the StarBand "Mission Control" software (Version 2.00) is installed on your computer is also installs an Internet Page Accelerator in the
C:\Program Files\Spacenet\Internet Page Accelerator folder. In order for this program to help you need to point IE (or Netscape) to it:Setups
IE Setup
Tools\Internet Options\Connections\LAN Settings
-> Check Use a proxy server and Bypass proxy server for local address
\Advanced
-> clear all the Proxy address to use boxes, in the HTTP: box write 127.0.0.1 and the Port should be 9877
I think that Use the same proxy server for all protocols should be checked.Netscape Setup
Edit\Preferences\Advanced\Proxies\
-> Check Manual Proxy configuration
\View
set the address to 127.0.0.1 and Port to 9877 in all the boxes.
27 Feb 2001 - Got an "internal error" separate window when trying to upload from Netscape Composer.
The fix (supplied by Starband tech support) is to go into Netscape:
Edit\preferences\advanced\proxies\view\
make blank the Address and Port for FTP. This fixed the problem.IE Version
It turns out that the version of IE that gets loaded with Mission Control messes up my computer. In order to continue to work without Starband I needed to uninstall IE (which brought me back to the prior version (and lost all favorites added) of IE).Disabling Starband
If you go to START - Run - msconfig - OK
select the startup tab at the top
unselect the boxes for: IPA and TaskBarSvr
reboot your computerUnfortunately this is something that I can do in autopilot mode.
Note: If you are not running IPA then you will need to go back to automatic proxy settings and not use IPA.There are two programs that do not seem to do anything useful, they are:
C:\program files\StarBand\Mission Control\SatStatusServer.exe and TaskBarSvr.exe.
You can kill these using <CTRL><ALT><DEL> and highlight them and select End Task.
The Browser seems to work fine without them. I have seen the system working with the icon black and the icon green and the system down.
This makes it easy to change from phone to Satellite, by changing the proxy assignment.IP Configuration
You can Start\Run
-> enter the program name WINIPCFG
This will bring up the IP Configuration window,
Select the Gilat communication device then,
it will tell you your IP address (and in my case the default gateway (Model 180) is just lower by 1 in the last place)
You can try "Release" to break the connection and then "Renew" to re-establish the connection.Using the LAN port
How to remove the USB card so as to enable the LAN port.
The Mod describing how to connect a router to the 180 LAN port to serve a number of computers.
Note the router protects your computer from hackers. If you do not use a router and connect your computer directly to the LAN port on the 180 you must run firewall software on the PC.FTP
When using the 180 for FTP be sure the Address and Port proxy fields blank. The AS_Agent does a good job of speeding up your browser by omiting the link to determine the DNS of your target, letting the computer at StarBand headquarters do this. You do not want to do this when using FTP.28 July 2001 - Today is the first time that I was able to uplink using File Transfer Protocol. I used WS-FTP LE (freeware) made by Ipswitch.
Ping
Ping is when you sent a small packet to some IP address and they send it back to you. The round trip time is measured. Search on "PING" and you will find many web sites that will ping you, East Coast, West Coast, Europe, etc. The theoretical ping time up to and down from a satellite is about 1/2 second. I am getting 0.8 to 1.8 seconds. But there must be something else wrong because sometimes I wait miutes for a page to load.dslreports
This web site has "Tweak" and I added the DefaultRcvWindow registry entry at 65535 and tried to turn on MTU using DrTCP, but it did not seem to make a lot of difference.
Because there is a transmitter involved in the uplink the dish setup needs to be much more accurate than for a normal Satellite TV receive only system. In particular the rotation (polarization) of the transmitter feed is very critical so as to not be transmitting in the opposite polarization "cross pol". This also means that a qualified installer must set up the system. It also means that you will not see these systems on platforms that can move for some time to come.
After reading these pages there are inconsistencies:Starband Central - not too much here, but free forums
- If the Mission Control software does nothing, then why should 180 users upgrade.
On the StarBand web page they requested that all 180 users leave their boxes powered up for a week in Feb. 2001 so that StarBand could download new firmware into the 180 boxes. I think this is where the improvement comes from, not the Mission Control Software.
Effective January 1, 1999, GE Spacenet merged with Gilat Satellite
Networks
Limited (Gilat), and operates as a wholly owned subsidiary of Gilat.
The
new company name will be Spacenet Services, Inc. Please visit
Spacenet's
new web site at www.spacenet.com
and update your browser's bookmarks to navigate to the new web site.
(11
March 2001, I get server error and can not connect to them)
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Trivia test . . . 4, 2 each Starband + 1 each OE-254 and 1 each AS-1405 or maybe the Eggbeater in the new photo