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Model Numbers
Description
Gearing
Escapement
Worn Pallets
Worn bushing
Missing Items
Seconds Hand
Coil Winding Vibratory Motor
Main Spring
Battery Power
Spring Winding Cam
Synchronizing Coil
Laminated Core
Laminated Core Electrical Steel
Sync Coil Data
Strange Armature Material
Sync Relay
Sync Button
Sync Wiring
Idea for Synchronizing
Radio Time Signals
Electro-magnets & Shunt Resistors
Pendulum
Suspension Spring
Round Case
Cleaning
Burnishing
Lubrication
Assembly
Mainspring Barrel
Drawings
No. 6 Battery Adapter
Questionable Packing
Really Bad Packaging by mickiecat1
Links
Background
The
first
"Western
Union"
clock I got only had minute and hour hands and I wanted one with a
big
second hand. See that page for most the the info I have on these
clocks.
Model Numbers
Model
|
Dial
dia"
|
Dial
dia
|
Shape
|
Pendulum
|
Beat
|
Case
|
Back
|
Dial
ctr
to Mtg scr"
|
25
|
11
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12
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Metal
|
Metal |
6
|
25
|
15
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16
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Metal |
Metal |
8 5/16 |
27
|
10
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11
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|
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Wood
|
Metal |
5
5/8
|
| 27 |
12 |
13
|
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Wood |
Metal |
5
5/8 |
28
|
10
|
11
|
|
|
|
Wood |
Metal |
5
5/8 |
| 28 |
12 |
13
|
|
|
|
Wood |
Metal |
5
7/8
|
35
|
10
|
11
|
|
|
|
Wood |
Metal |
5
5/8 |
| 35 |
12 |
13
|
|
|
|
Wood |
Metal |
5
7/8 |
37
|
11
|
12
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Round
|
|
|
Metal |
Metal |
6 |
| 37 |
15 |
16
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Round |
|
|
Metal |
Metal |
8 5/16 |
41
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|
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Mercury
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60
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|
|
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42
|
11
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12
|
|
|
|
Metal |
Metal |
6 |
43
|
11
|
12
|
|
|
|
Metal |
Metal |
6 |
Description
Overall diameter about 19" by under
5"
thick. 15" opening in case to view dial.
The dial is 16" in diameter.
Glass missing from case, maybe should be 15.5" OD.
Movement # 402449. Subtracting the number on the other
S.W.C.C.
movement yields ( 402,449-39,580) 362,869. It's very
unlikely
that by chance I have the first or last of the Western Union
clocks, so
an estimate would be that they made over 400,000 thousand clocks
between 1934 and 1970. Probably making most of them in the
earlier years.
Henry says that the sweep second had was a request from the
broadcast
(radio & TV) business that needed to start their shows at the
exact
top of the hour.
Marybeth inputs -
- movement 402449 made early 1930s
- The winder cam has 12 lobes, i.e. every 5 minutes
- model # is 37SS
- although the 1.5" diameter gasss is not readily available
the
15.375" works with some stickes backed velcrow under each
tab
- I'm missing a circlip that holds down the minute hand.
- I'm missing the cover attachment knurled screw.
- This clock has the movement moved lower than clocks
without a
second hand so as to place the escapement shaft in the
center of the
dial other clocks (of all makers) place the hour shaft in
the center of
the dial and add the other hands around it. This is a
very
different design that has all the hands revolving around the
seconds
shaft
- The movement is still the "F" but has a bunch of
"appendages" to
handle all the extra stuff
- The case is probably "Battleship Gray", but I need a way
to
figure that out
- When the small knurled nut is removed from the movement it
should
be clipped into a large safety pin. That way if it's
dropped your
can find it and also it will not roll when clipped.
Gearing
The pendulum has a 1/2 half second
beat
or 1 second period so the escape wheel (60 T) advances makes one
revolution per minute.
The pinion gear (8T) on the escape wheel advances one tooth each
7.5
seconds.
The first idler shaft gear wheel ( 60 T) takes 60 * 7.5 sec or 450
seconds ( 7.5 minutes) to make a turn.
The pinion gear ( 8 T) on the first idler shaft takes 56.25
seconds for
each tooth.
The gear ( 64 T) at the front of the minute shaft is attached to
it's
shaft and takes 56.25 s * 64 = 3,600 ( 60 minutes) seconds to make
a
turn.
The gear (28 T) on the front of the minute shaft takes 60 min / 28
minutes to move 1 tooth.
The second idler gear (56 T) takes 56 * 60 min / 28 = 120 minutes
to
make a turn.
The second idler pinion (12 T) takes 10 minutes for a each
tooth.
The hour gear (72 T) takes 10 min * 72 = 720 minutes (12 hours) to
make
one turn.
The second idler gear drives the minutes hand gear (28 T) (not the
minutes shaft) since both the minute shaft gear and the minute
hand
gear connect to second gear and both have the same number of
teeth ( 28 T) the minute hand moves at the same rate and in the
same
direction as the miunte shaft.
Escapement

I've
tried
a
number of ways to measure the anchor, and none of the prior
methods worked for me. But this method of photographing the
anchor held on a corner of the frame and with the flats of the
pallets
parallel to the frame seems to give very good results.
The silver rectangle on the right is used as a spacer to get the
crutch
rod at the correct height and it's being pulled to the frame by
rubber
bands hooked on the end just to the right of the photo.
The distance between the pallet faces can be computed as
SQRT(1.16*1.16
+0.274*0.274)=1.192"
The distance between the center of the anchor shaft and the escape
wheel shaft center can be measured a number of ways and they all
are
within a few mils of 1.1635"
The interesting thing is the 14.1 degree angle of the crutch
relative
to the frame. It was measured on the photo and so may not be
accurate. The arc tangent of .274/1.16 is 13.3
degrees. So
the crutch is very close to, if not exactly, square to a line
between
the pallet faces.
This is s/n 402419 which is one of the newer clocks fitted with a
single coil synchronizer.
The escape wheel has 60 teeth. The diameter across the
points of
the escape wheel is 1.865" and at the root of the teeth is
1.591". 90 degrees divided by 6 degrees per tooth is 15
degrees
for a design that has no drop. This anchor spans 13 teeth
leaving
12 degrees for drop.
This anchor has a different outline from the older anchors, like
on
s/n 79006, but the pallet faces
are in the
same place.
I've heard that this escapement is different from the standard
escapement where the wheel has 30 teeth. For a 60 tooth
wheel the
design is different. So the designs published in clock books
for
30 tooth wheels are not the same.
Worn Pallets

The pallet faces have grooves worn
into
them that are very deep to the point of generating some
recoil.
The other S.W.C.C. clocls I have do not have this problem.
This is a dead beat, or Graham escapement, it's just not working
that
way now.
The links (called cocks) have a pin that can be removed simply by
pressing on the cock while the pin is on a hard surface.
With the
pin out of the cock the anchor can be lowered deeper into the
escapement wheel to see how it works. This will have to wait
since now, 27 Jun 2007, the clock is completely apart and has been
cleaned.
The wear to the back is on the dead face and probably is not too
important, but the wear on the narrow front face has changed the
shape
and now causes the escape wheel to turn backwards a little.
Can this be repaired? ans: Yes but not easily.
A better thing to do is move the escape wheel so that it meets the
pallet on the side that is still good. It's almost as if the
factory setup does not center the escape wheel on the pallet but
instead puts it on one side just so that it later can be moved to
double the time until a repair is needed.
Pallet Adjustment
The Graham style anchor is held not by the frame but rather by a
link
on both the front and rear frames. The links are attached by
both
a screw and a pin to the frame. The hole in the link that
passes
the screw is a tight fit. This means the link is not an
adjustment, but rather a way to remove the anchor - crutch part,
like
to release the main spring. If the link screw hole was
enlarged
then the link could swing about the pin allowing some up or down
adjustment of the anchor. This might allow balancing the
drop on
both sides.
The front and rear frame are almost identical stamped parts.
I think the link location was a seperate step that probably was
done
using a fixture on each frame plate to set the anchor shaft hole
directly above the escapement wheel shaft the correct
distance.
Then the holes for the screw and pin were drilled.
This means that the anchor crutch and escapement wheel are
interchangeable between clocks.
Worn Bushing

The bushing that is driven by the main spring on the front has
black
goo around it. That's consistant with the pallets being
worn (see above).
This clock got a lot of use.
The stub shaft probably should not be removed since the holes for
the
two screws are oversized to allow adjusting the stub shaft
position. That's why there are flat washers under the screw
heads. This shaft holds an intermediate geat that mates to
similar gears above and below it.
Missing Items
- 15.5" dia front
glass
- have received and installed two of them
- Knurled screw to hold front cover onto frame
- FS 172 Minute Hand Clip
- Pendulum support spring and it's two pins
- Vibratiing motor contact roller (black insulating plastic
sleeve) & it's attachment screw. Thre's one on top and
another on the bottom, probably should replace both to be safe.
Seconds Hand
I've seen 4 different ways a second
hand is handled on the Self Winding Clock Co. clocks:
- This clock has a sweep seconds hand (a hand marking seconds
on a timepiece mounted concentrically with the other hands and
read
from the same dial as the minute hand). But in this case
the all
the hands are mounted on the seconds shaft.
- A regular second hand (a hand marking seconds on a timepiece
not
mounted concentrically with the other hands and read from it's
own
scale) maybe an inch long located between the dial center and
12:00
with a hole almost two inches in diameter. The second
hand serves
the normal purpose of a second hand. The hole serves the
purpose
of allowing someone to see the contact points of a master
clock to
confirm that they are separated from each other, i.e. are not
fused
together. If they are fused together all the slave
clocks are
stopped.
- A regular second hand maybe an inch long located between the
dial
center and 12:00. This second hand is on the 'cape shaft
and is a
simple thing to add. The Minute and Hour hands are
on the
hour shaft.
- No second hand is also very common. Although the 'cape
shaft is just behind the dial. Virtually all of today's
digital
clocks that operate from a quartz crystal do NOT have a
seconds
display. That's because they are not accurate enough.
Coil Winding Vibratory Motor

Contacts
on
the
clock close the circuit
that connects the local battery to the winding motor. The
motor
is the classical two coil type where each coil is aprox 1" dia x
2"
long. About 5 Ohms resistance. The 4 screws that hold
the
motor to the frame were not holding it in the proper place.
I
changed the position of the coils so that when the armature is at
the
top of it's travel it would just hit the top point of the coil
core. This involves both the left to right and the
rotational
position of the coil relative to the clock frame. This cured
the
problem of the one coil switch drive pin hitting the insulating
washer
on the end of the coil. The other drive pin is
missing.
After the coil alignment to motor is running nicely.
Winding can be manually done while the leaf switch is
pressed.
The main spring has an auto stop brake and you will hear the motor
stop
winding.
When one of the 12 teeth of the winding cam lifts the leaf switch
and
it contacts the other leaf power is sent to the winding
motor.
But it's not clear how there leafs are prevented from shorting to
the
grounded cam? Also what disconnects the winding motor from
the
battery?
Adjustments
9 June 2007
- 4 screws that attch the dual coil assembly to the
frame.
Loosen and friction tighten then adjust coils so that bottom
of
armature just touches the top of coil cores at top of swing
when upper
spring has been removed. I could not do that on this
movement
because the insulating cylinder that opens the electrical
circuit hits
the coil insulating washer. So for not set coil bace a
little. Probably should grind off some of the washer so
it clears
the contact sleeve.
- Top spring can be rotated by loosening screws on front and
back
frame that hold it's support shaft. Top of armature
should just
touch spring when it's 1/16" below top of core.
- Bottom spring should just tough armature when top of
armature is
even with bottom of core. Again the support shaft can be
rotated
to adjust.
- The contacts should be open 1/32" when the armature just
touches
the top spring and should sit in the center of the contact
metal when
at rest.
- The front are rear springs should "make" and "break" at very
close to the same place. (I'm missing the small screw and
plastic
sleeve so can not tune both.
The idea is that when not powered the armature rests on the lower
spring and the contacts are closed. When the circuit is
closed
the armature swings up and opens the circuit just as it touches
the top
spring but inertia will carry it a little further. Then the
spring throws it back down and about when it's free of the top
spring
the electromagnet is energized and starts pulling it back up.
I found that setting up the motor based on the dimensions is a
good
starting point, but it's running weaker than it could be. So
I
tried various adjustments while the motor was running and find
that the
top spring adjustment is best "tweaked" while the motor is running
and
the movement is in a upright position. The latter is very
important since gravity pulls the armature down. When the
top
spring is way too high or removed the motor will run but it's
weak. As the top spring is lowered the motor speeds up and
sounds
stronger. Too low and it stops. Once the top spring is
set
the motor will run with the movement upside down.
This is sort of like dyno tuning a car compared to doing it by
setting
things statically. Dyno tuning results in more power.
The lower spring does not seem to do much. Maybe it needs to
be
longer or shorter, not sure. If you could get an increase in
power like the top spring provided then that would really be
something. Door bells and buzzers have the armature
supported on
a leaf spring that acts in both directions and they can be
installed in
any orientation relative to gravity.
Electrical
When a couple of "D" cells power the coil pair and then the
current is
stopped, the kickback is about 40 Volts. The shunt resistor
is
marked blue gray black silver which translates into 68 Ohms 10%
tolerance. 40v/68 ohms is 588 ma. An ohm meter across
the
combined coil and resistor reads 5.6 Ohms. With a voltage
across
the coil of 2.5 volts the current is about 446 ma. The
acutual
cycle is for no current to be drawn from the battery between
windings
which may be 5 minutes or 60 minutes minus say 15 seconds of wind
time. During winding on the up stroke while the contacts are
closed the current tops out around 600 ma. then as soon as the
contacts
open the current does not change because the coil generates a 40
volt
spike
It takes 824 us for the 33 volt pulse to recover to 37%.
Winding Mechanism

At
the
left
is the armature. When the electromagnet is activated
it's shaft rotates CCW lifting the arm that piviots about the
ratchet
wheel. The pawl on the pivot arm turns the ratchet wheel
clockwise. When the electromagnet is deactivated the
armature
shaft rotates CW, lowering the pivot arm. Now the pawl in
the
upper right of the photo holds the ratchet wheel and the pawl on
the
pivot arm moves with respect to the ratchet wheel.
The ratchet wheel shaft drives a pinion gear, a part of which is
just
visible in the photo, which in turn turns the main spring housing,
the
rear part being the smooth wheel in the photo. But the large
gear
behind the main spring housing is not turned by the ratchet
wheel. The large gear is on the hours shaft.
Mainspring Shaft
This minutes shaft is the lowest
one in
the
clock. The front drive gear is fixed to the mainspring
barrel and
drives the idler shaft pinion above it. The mainspring
barrel
that
consists of the front spring wheel with a smooth radial surface,
the
main spring and the rear wheel that has the winding teeth on
it's outer
rim is free to turn on the shaft. The winding cam is also
free to
turn on this shaft. The outer end of the mainspring is
attached
to a pin between the two barrel wheels. The inner end of
the
mainspring is connected to the shaft. There is a dual
ratchet on
the fine tooth gear that's driven by the vibrating motor that
does not
let the mainspring unwind. As the clock runs the shaft
turns
clockwise unwinding the spring. When the winding motor
runs it
turns the barrel clockwise winding the spring.
The cam revolves around the
mainspring
(minutes) shaft but is not fixed to the shaft. It has two
pins
fixedly
attached and pointing to the front of the clock both positioned
on the
same radial line. A radial pin through the
mainspring
shaft, like a
spoke on a wheel, drives the inner pin of the cam as the clock
runs
turning the cam clockwise.
When one of the cam lobes lifts the switch contacts and closes
the
circuit the vibratory motor starts winding the mainspring barrel
by
turning it clockwise. Note the mainspring barrel is not
fixed to
the mainspring shaft, but is free to revolve.
Starting from completely unwound. The winding motor starts
turning the barrel clockwise. After just under one turn
the the
pin sticking back from the barrel picks up the outer pin
sticking
forward on the cam and starts to turn the cam. After about
1/12
of a turn the cam turns off the winding motor. If at this
point
the manual switch is activated the barrel continues to rotate
clockwise. After just under one more turn the the inner
cam pin
facing towards the front hits the radial pin fixed to the shaft
and
this positively stops any further winding of the mainspring.
So the manual button should not be held down after the motor
stops. I expect the design of the winding cam is such that
the
internal switch is open after the mainspring is wound to the
stop.
By making the ratchet teeth very fine on the winding ratchet gear
the
amount of dead space is minimized making for a more efficient
winding
mechanism.
These videos were made prior to disassembly.
SWCC2AlmostWinding.avi
- but
stops - as clock was received
SWCC2Winding.avi - after
adjusting
the motor
SWCC2WndMech.avi - frame like
shown in winding mechanism photo above, armature moved manually
Main Spring
Strength
It looks like the torque on the
escapment wheel when the spring is just about to run out is
around 3.9
grams * 2.2 cm (8.6 g-cm). When the main spring is wound to the
fixed
stop the torque is about 5.6 g * 2.2 cm (12.3 g-cm)..
Removing Tension
The anchor is held in place by adjustable bars on the front and
back
frames. By removing the bar on the rear frame the anchor and
attached
pendulum drive crutch can be moved free of the 'cape wheel and by
light
finger pressure you can control the speed of the wheel to allow
the
spring to unwind.
Battery Power
Spring Winding Cam

A
cam
located
on the hour shaft activates a leaf switch that turns on the
winding motor about every 6 minutes. The manual winding
switch
(near wires) is connected in parallel with the leaf switch
activated by
the cam. Note that by winding more frequently the tension of
the
spring on the 'cape wheel will be more uniform and because of that
the
clock should keep better time.
This is very different from the single lobe cam used in the prior
Self
Winding Clocks that should only wind once per hour.
At the left of the photo you can see the 'cape wheel (seconds
shaft)
and the rod used to drive the pendulum is visible below the back
plate.
The silver shaft in the center is the minutes and the spring is on
the
hours shaft to the right.
Synchronizing Coil
Laminated Core
My
guess is that the laminated core was the key technology needed for
a
single coil to replace the dual coil setup that was used since
about
1840. Since the "Western Union" clocks started around 1934
and
ended about 197? the laminated core coil may be a fairly new
development.
For comparison look at the
Sync coils
on
an earlier Self Winding Clock.
Marked in white paint box:
(C.E. 0088?)
This is the first time I've
seen
a
single coil in this application. All the others have been
dual
coils. The single coil has a larger diameter (1 11/16"
dia
x 2 1/2" long) and the most
important feature is that it uses a laminated stack of metal to
form
the return magnetic path. All the dual coil setups are using
single chunks of soft iron for the magnetic path. The
problem
with a single chunk of metal is that when the magnetic field
changes
Eddy currents cause losses which get fixed when laminations are
used.
Note when A.C. mains power became available Eddy currents quickly
became understood. But in the days when DC was the only kind
of
electricity that was being used no one saw the need for
laminations. But you would notice that the efficiency of an
electromagnet would suffer when there was any kind of a magnetic
path
outside of a coil. Note that in all these electromagnet
applications the E-M does not just sit there doing nothing.
The
only time it has value is when it's pulsed, i.e. turned on
and
off. During the changes is where the need for the laminated
core
comes into play.
In Charles R. Underhill' book "Solenoids, Electromagnets and
Electromagnetic Windings" first edition 1910 second edition 1914.
Laminated cores are mentioned in relation to AC plunger solenoids,
and
nowhere else. There are many mentions of "Iron clad"
solenoids
and electromagnets, but never laminated ones.
Laminated Core Electrical Steel

In
October
of
1890 Steinmetz was asked to calculate the loss in iron motor
cores. By 1892 he was publishing papers on the loss.
He
said the hardness, saturation and hysteresis are the three
properties
of the core material. (Ref Science Vol. XX No. 509, 1892)
Allegheny Technologies -
Electrical
Silicon
Steel
- Grain Oriented Silicon Steels
- when the DC is turned off these have lower remanent
magnatazation
than soft iron cores. They also have higher saturation
magnazation thus can be smaller or use less current.
The laminations are about 0.030" thick. At the left of the
photo
you can see that there's a small end gap between two different
laminations on the same layer. There is a similar gap at the
left
face of the coil. So to get this "U" shape core the
laminations
are "L" and "I" shapes.
The central core is 0.533" x 0.420" for an area of 0.224 sq in.
(144 sq
mm).
Sync Coil Data
The wire is enamaled about 0.029" dia, or maybe AWG 22 wire.
6
Ohms would take (
Cooner
Wire) 6/16.2 = 370 feet.
The coil might have an ID of 0.68" and OD of 1.6" with a length of
2.3" this gives a rectangle for the turns that's 0.46" high
x
2.3" long or 1.058 sq inches. If each wire was a square
0.03" on
a side then 1,175 turns would fit. The mean radius is 0.522,
mean
circumference is 3.27" which times the number of turns is 3,850"
or 320
feet, not too far from the computed 370 feet.
Wedging the armature in the open position and using the
FLC-100 magnatometer to measure
the
filed at the end of the core while the coil current is varied from
0 to
250 ma produces the following
plot.
The
coil
is clearly saturated at 250 ma.
Marked in white paint box:
(C.E. 0088?)
1873659 Process of Treating Silicon Steel, August 23, 1932,
148/110 ;
148/111; 29/17.2 - aka Magnetic steel
1714038 Process of Treating Silicon Steel, May 21, 1929, 148/110
Tool steels are made with the minimum possible amount of silicon,
very
different from magnetic core silicon steel.
So have not found a patent to cover this. But I was looking
in the 1890 to 1940 time frame, but now think it's in the 1934 to
1970
time frame.
6 Ohm sync coil at 3 volts draws about 450 ma for a pair of
"D"
cell batteries. Does actuate but hard to say if enough force
to
move hands far.
11 June 2007 - Sync coil testing - The coil measures 150
Ohms and
135 mH using the
HP 4332 LCR
meter.
This is an AC measurement, not DC. These numbers are probably bad
since
the coil is 6 Ohms DC.
Tried remeasuring the DC resistance with a Fluke 87 DMM and get
wildly
varying readings. The AC volts output from the sync coil
jumps
around hundreds of mv if the armature is wiggled. The proper
drive is going to be a voltage much higher than 3 volts from an
even
still higher voltage loop with current limiting.
Based on the DC power supply the coil resistance is 5.9
Ohms.
Armature just pulls in at 0.71 V @ 0.105 A. Reasonable
sounding
action
at 3 volts, movement standing up, either polarity.
11 July 2007 -
2.5 volts across the coil gives current of 417 ma. With a
327 ohm
resistor across the coil the kickback voltage is about 100 v.
.417 A * 327 Ohms = 136 Volts just after the instant of turn
off.
After 125 us it has recovered to 100 volts. The time to
recover
to 50.5 volts (37% of total change) is the time constant, and is
710
us. If this is just an L/R time constant then the self
inductance
is about 232 uH. I doubt this is the case.
If we take 3 time constants as the time to settle, i.e. 2.13 ms
then:
V = L * dI / dT, so L = V * dT / dI = 136 v * 2.13E-3 / .417 =
0.694 H
or 694 mH
Using a 1k resistor across the coil the instantaneous kickback
voltage
will be 417 volts. 37% is 154 V.
272 us is the time constant. If L/r then L is 88.9 mH.
Using Self Inductance:
L = 417 v * 3 * 272 us / .417A = 816 mH
A method of testing is to put the HP 54501 scope in triggered
single
shot mode. Connect the two batteries to the synchronizer
coil. Then clear the scope display (which arms the trigger)
and
quickly disconnect the clip lead from the coil terminal.
This
generates the negative spike cleanly. With a 10X probe the
max
volts/div is 50 * 8 divisions is a max on screen range of 400
volts. The one shot bandwidth is not that great on this
scope.
It's not clear what the value of self inductance actually is.
Placing a diode across the coil slowes down the recovery time to a
little more than 157 ms. This is a real bummer.
Heard from Henry that the line voltage was 120 and the current was
250
ma. No more than 25 series connected clocks on one
circuit.
The panel has an adjustable resistor to set the current.
My example:
20 clocks where each has 6 Ohms DC resistance so 120 Ohms clock
resistance. The wire resistance might be 150 Ohms for a 1
mile
loop, more for longer loops. So the current would be = 120
Volts
/ (120 + 150) Ohms or .44 amps. So to get down to 1/4 amp
the
sending station resistor would be adjusted until the current was
1/4
amp which would take about 210 Ohms.
Now look at the impact on the charging time constant.
With
120 Volts and 1/4 amp the loop resistance will be 400 Ohms.
The
mix of clocks, wire and adjustable resistor may change but that's
the
total. So now the time constant of any clock is made faster
by
400/6 or 66 times. This is a very big improvement in the
speed of
operation. It applies to both charging the inductor and
discharging.
Strange Armature
The armature is constructed from materials I don't recognize.
The side away from the coil looks like aluminum (lead?), but a
magnet
sticks to it. On the other side it looks like
asbestos. On
the coil side a thin iron strip is attached with a screw (hole
tapped
into "aluminum") that has a "V" pointing to the bottom of the
coils
central laminated core. Trapped under the iron strap
is a
thin sheet of brass that extends up higher than the core, so when
the
coil is charged and the armature closes the brass prevents the
asbestos
from touching the central core. But when the coil is
installed in
a clock that can't happen because of the connection to the clock
mechanism.
Synchronizing Relay
This is a new item that's probably part of the single coil
setup.
In the older
Self Winding Clocks
the synchronizing coil was driven from line power. But in
this
case there appears to be a classic design dual coil relay that the
line
activates and then uses the local battery to drive the single
coil. I
haven't traced it out, but that's what it looks like.
Both the older and newer clocks use the local battery to light the
red
"lightening bolt" lamp each time the clock gets
synchronized.
When the lamp is dim it's a clue the battery needs to be
replaced. The other clue is the winding takes longer and
sounds
different (just a guess).
12.7 Ohm relay coils is the load on the line feeding the clock.
Synchronizing Button
In
Fig 6 above
is
shown a Synchronizing
Button. It's simply a doorbell button with one wire going to
the
battery terminal for +3 volts and the other wire going to the left
Fahnestock Clip. A short wire goes from the -3 volt battery
terminal to the right Fahnestock Clip. Push at 1 second till
the
hour brings the minute
and second hands to 12:00 and release at the hour to allow them to
move
again.
I tried this with a long wire and it did not work. That's
consistent with what I've been learning about the
No.
6
Dry Cell
being capable of delivering currents in the area of 20 Amps.
When
I was testing using an Agilent (HP) E3617A bench DC power supply
that's
rated for only 1 Amp the relay action was not what one would hope
for.
The battery adapter I'm using the the 37SS clock shown in
Fig 6 above
is a special double "D" cell adapter where they are connected in
series
and no springs are being used in order to minimize the
internal
resistance.
This might explain the relay in the synchronizing circuit of my
other
37SS. That would be the way to synchronize a clock from
another
clock where the loop voltage was much lower than the 120 VDC used
on
the Western Union time circuits.
Sync Wiring
S.W.C.C.#4 clock (the one that
came with burned out motor contacts) The prior owner misconnected
the
sync coil wires. See the two photos below.

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wire
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Good
Fahnestock Clip wiring.
Sync button wiring.
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The three screws that go through the sync binding post triangle
plates are electrically connected to the movement frame and are
NOT
connected to either of the sync coil terminals. Both plates
are
electrically insulated from the clock movement. It's best to
only
make electrical connection using the top screw both to avoid this
type
of mistake and to minimize the loop resistance. I don't
remember
touching the coil to plate wiring since that's not needed to
remove the
movement from the frame. Maybe the prior owner did that for
some
reason. It puts a short across the coil which has no effect
if
the coil is not connected to anything. It has the effect of
presenting an open to the sync circuit preventing it from working.
The battery adapter on this clock was made using No. 8 hardware
for the
terminals and with two series connected "D" cells inside for a 3
Volt
battery so the right side battery cup is not used. Also the
crossover cable to the right battery is not used. This
lowers the
circuit resistance. Positive battery to lower movement
terminal.
The sync button is wired with a gray wire from battery positive to
left
Fahnestock Clip. Red doorbell wire to right Fahnestock
Clip. Black doorbell wire to battery negative.
It's best to install the minute hand in the correct position on
the
square shaft. That way the synchronizing will work at the
top of
the hour. If you have the minute hand installed in one of
the
three wrong positions, that's OK, just try synchronizing at 15, 30
and
45 minutes past the hour and make a note of which one of those
works
and just use that time for sync.
29 Sep 2007 - When the sync button is pressed the minute hand will
move
to some position between 00 seconds past the minute to 59 seconds
past
the minute. This is because the seconds arbor is NOT reset
by
sync on clocks that don't have a second hand. (Anyway that's
what
I'm thinking after trying to sync the clock at 11:00 am but not
getting
the minute hand straight up.)
Idea for Synchronizing
Coil Drive
In order to get snappy and sure operation of the synchronizing
solenoid
the applied voltage needs to be about 200 Volts and current
limited
with a resistor to provide the desired current. A good way
to
generate the 200 Volts is by using a
blocking
oscillator.
The one from a used throwaway flash camera could be used (it may
be
closer to 350 Volts, but that's OK since the series resistor can
be
made larger. These oscillators can be made to start when the
input voltage is a fraction of a volt and will easily work from a
3
Volt supply.
Time Source
The ideal time source would be a radio broadcast that includes
both the
time code and Daylight Saving Time information, like WWVB in the
U.S. The most practical non broadcast method would be to use
one
of the Dallas Semi (now part of Maxim) clock oscillator chips.
Daylight Saving Time
The only contorl that's built into these clocks is the
synchronizing
pulse. You can only use the sync pulse with the minute hand
is
within a few minutes of the hour. So, to turn the clock back
one
hour the sync pulse would need to be sent 20 times seperated by 3
minutes thus holding the hour and minute hands fixed.
To
advance the clock one hour the sync pulse would need to be sent
for 23
hours once each 3 minutes stoping the clock for just short of a
day.
Note all of the above requires no change to the clock and so can
be
used with a string of clocks and they all would be kept exactly on
time.
Radio Time Signals
I've heard that at some radio
stations
there was a relay associated with the clock that made the "beep"
to go
with at the tone the time will be xxx O'Clock. I'm guessing
this
was a relay wired in series with the synchronizer coil and so
would be
closed at the top of the hour at 59 minutes and 59 seconds, held
for a
second then opened at exactly the top of the hour. It would
switch a 1 kc audio tone into the radio audio circuit. If
you
know more details please
let me know.
Electro-magnets & Shunt Resistors
As current goes into an
electro-magnet
it charges the magnetic field. If the current is stopped the
magnetic field collapses generating a current in the opposite
polarity
but starting out at the same value. If there is no snubber
circuit across the coil the voltage can be very high. This
causes
arcing on the mechanical points controlling the current input,
wearing
out the points.
By placing a resistor in parallel with the coil about ten times
the
coil resistance the voltage across the coil at the start of the
back
EMF will be 10 times the normal coil voltage and so eliminates the
point arcing. The early shunt resistors were made in the
form of
a coil wound on a non magnetic core where the wire gauge and
length
determined the resistance. Newer versions use a carbon
composition axial lead resistor.
If a diode is installed across the coil it will stop the arcing
but
also it maximized the recovery time of the coil. So if a
diode is
placed across the synchronizing coil there will be a delay
is
allowing the second hand to start. If put across the winding
motor coil it will weaken the motor. That can be seen and
heard
on the
video of the
Electromagnetic Toy Engine.
A better snubber circuit would be to use the resistor but add a
diode
in series. Now during the normal charging part of the cycle
the
diode is back biased and the resistor is disconnected thus saving
battery power, but when the contacts open the diode turns on
putting
the resistor in the circuit limiting the back EMF and protecting
the
contact points but doing it without slowing down the coil
recovery.
Pendulum
So far all the metal cases Self Winding Clock Co. clocks I've seen
have
the short 120 beat pendulum. I think the rod is invar and the
bob
may be type metal. Brass adjusting nut. There are two
holes
in the bob that match two holes in the back frame where the screws
connect the two for shipping. Do not try and get around this
system be being creative, like someone who tried to use wire did
with
very poor results.

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Suspension Spring
A replacement suspension spring is the Timesavers No. 10421.
Their description is:
Suspension Spring - #2 Regulator
For #2 Regulators, time clocks, self-winding clocks and others.
1-3/16" long. .0025"
No.
10421 ................ $3/ea ....... $8.25/3
Round Case

I
think
the color is battleship gray.
An approiate color for a USNO clock.
Missing glass as received.
Top hole for alignment pin and notch for top wire access.
Bottom threaded hole for missing attachment screw.
Glass Attach

Glass
Attaches
with 5 clamps lined with what may be sheet cork?
The opening in the metal case is 14 & 13/16" so the glass must
have
a larger diameter.
The distance from the opening edge to the inside metal bracket is
hard
to measure exaclty but using the minimum rradial distance of
0.512 gives a max diameter for the glass of (14.8125 + 2* 0.512 =)
15.8635".
The cork (?) material is about 0.050" thick so the glass should be
less
than 15.8635 - 2* 0.050 =) 15.7635" diameter.
The black goop was holding sound deadning material to help cut
down the
noise for use in radio and TV studios.
Cleaning
Naphtha (
Wiki)
(aka: White Gas, Coleman Camp Gas, Lighter Fluid, Benzin
, Petroleum Spirits,
Ronsonol,
Ligroin) or a commercial clock cleaning
solution can be used. Many of the commercial clock cleaners
contain ammonia which can be harmful to brass if not thoroughly
rinsed.
The electrical and fiber parts should not be cleaned in any of
these
solutions since they will be harmed. This means
disassembling the
movement. That means how do you get it back together.
This
is where a digital camera and maybe making some drawings is a good
thing.
The
minute hand shaft shows some slight wear. In the
worn
bushing photo you can see black goo (oil plus worn brass
bits) on
the end of the
shaft which in a normal clock would be for the minute hand.
This
clock is unusual in that there are no hands on this shaft and
instead
they all are centered on the second hand shaft. The post to
the
left of the minute shaft holds gearing. In the background
you can
see the escapement wheel. The large gear driving the pinion
gear
on the minute shaft is part of the main spring shaft assembly.
At this point I've removed all the items that have fiber or
plastic
parts getting ready for cleaning.
Also making drawings to be sure it can be put back together.
The
tricky part is that there are adjustments that need to be made
during
the assembly process which I'm still trying to understand prior to
dismantling the frame.

The
frame
has
been opened. And more photos and drawings being
made. The small washer that fell off the back frame plate
came
from the armature shaft. The two screws that were removed to
take
off the back frame are sitting on it over the holes they came out
of.
Frame
This is the "F" movement, just like
the
first S.W.C.C. clock. But this frame has additional tapped
holes
to support that stub axle shown in the photo above that are not on
the
more common "F" frames. There may be other differences.

The
mainspring
barrel
assembly after slowly releasing the tension, it took
4.0 turns, which will be the amount required for reassembly.
The
wheel leg that has the pin is pointing to 12:00 on both wheels in
the
photo and that's the leg that has the outer end of the spring
attached. It's hard to see but on the left wheel at 2:00 is
a non
threaded pin to the outside of the spring, i.e. the spring is
inside
the 3 wheel attachment posts and the pin. There
is a
loose part in the center of the left wheel that connects the
spring to
the shaft. The shaft has a pin that drives a slot in the "C"
part
which in turn has a ball ended pin that grabe the inner end of the
spring.
Inspection

On
of
the
things that needs to be looked at is the slop on the hour wheel
where the black goo was. I tried using digital verneer
calipers,
but it seemed I needed a hand to hold the clock down, another hand
to
hold the capipers and another hand to work the zero button.
So
changed to using a dial gauge that has it's own stand. Don't
bother trying to rotate the dial to zero or using the little
pointers
(you can see one of them in the upper right of the photo) since
the
zero will change. Just note the reading before and after
reaching
through the hole in the frame and lifting the shaft. In this
case
it moves about 0.007 mils.
I'd call it a little worn, but not enough to replace anything.
More Cleaning

The
first
cleaning
with Naphtha removed the caked on black combination of
old dried up oil and metal particles, but left a white film
underneath
where they were. It took a couple of cycles in the
ultrasonic
cleaner to get them clean. The image at the left was made
using a
flat bed scanner. These work very well for flat objects, so
the
shaft ends most forward are in very good focus and I can see the
scratches on the bearing surfaces.
Abrasive methods of getting rid of the scratches are not a good
idea
since that makes the shaft diameter smaller. The preferred
method
is to burnish the pivots.
Need to shop for a manual burnishing tool and pin vise that can
hold a
1.8 mm pin on Monday.
Burnishing
This is a process of deforming the
metal on the pivot bearing surface to remove scratches or
worse.
Unlike abrasive methods of polishing, burnishing does not remove
any
metal, it just moves it.
The brunishing tool (
Time
Savers
17526) is just a rectangular metal bar about 2.75 x 6.5 x 180
mm.
All the corners are sharp 90 degree angles. There's no way
you
can hold this in your hands and working with it without
cutting
yourself. So I have mounted it in a file holder
handle.
The handle has traces of lettering and what looks like "PAT" but I
can't read it. If you know the brand or who sells this handle
please let me know.

The
Pin
Vices
are not the proper size. The Large Pin VIse ( TS 16537) and
the Pin Vise (TS 13424) both have about the same size (hold 1.98
to
2.35 mm) collet. But will holdneither a 1.72 mm
pinion bearing surface nor a 3.05 mm arbor shaft.
The opposite end has no round hole and is designed to hold very
small
diameter items.
Lubrication
Oils and greases can provide less
friction between moving metal surfaces. A bearing
should be
designed so that the loading per square inch is way below the
limits of
the softest metal used. But as the bearing area increases so
does
the normal operating friction. So some balance needs to be
made.
If the oil dries up (lighter oils evaporate faster than thin oils
and
they are faster than grease) then the metal to metal friction can
do
damage. The other thing that happens to a clock that's in an
open
atmosphere (a watch is in a sealed case) is that airborne
particles
find their way to the oil surface and become abrasives that grind
up
the bearing surfaces. I'm guessing that a little of both
effects
had started working on this bearing when the clock was taken out
of
service.
After some web surfing I think the main spring will get Mobil 1
Synthetic
Gear Lube LS 75w-90 along with the main spring arbor pivots.
This
is an all synthetic oil (good for not
growing stuff) that has a proven ability to reduce bearing
friction. So a thin coat on the spring should make for
smooth and
free movement. This can be checked by manually winding and
slowly
releasing the tension and watching how the spring moves.
For the pivots
Nye
Clock
Oil 140B.
Nye seems to be an up to date company not only conversant with the
approiate specifications for oils but also developing completly
new
types of oils.
Assembly
Mainspring Barrel

Here
the
spring
has been looped onto the center mushroom pin and is sitting
loose on the barrel half. I'm going to practice the winding
on a
dry spring, then lube the spring and do it again.
I almost ruined the spring by turing the wrong way. It's
important that you tension the spring, not try to compress it.
After getting the spring on dry, used a tooth pick to pick up a
small
amount of Mobil 1 "75W-90" and capillary action sucked it between
the
turns.
It takes strong hands to install the spring and keep it from
jumping away. If you have weak hands you might consider not
taking apart the mainspring barrel, or have someone else do it.
Then holding what is the front side in my left hand and turning the
back side (the side with the three nuts) counter clockwise put 4
turns
of pretension into the barrel and tied it with a piece of
wire.
See photo at left.

I've set the 5 minute wind cam on the shaft and it too got a tiny
film
of gear lube.
You can see the wire is bent from the tension trying to turn the
rear
gear (has the 3 nuts) clockwise.
DO NOT TURN
THE
WRONG WAY!
Drawings
I have 95% of the clock in the form of an Autocad 2D drawing with
multiple views and many layers and many blocks. This allows
turning off layers to cause parts to disappear making for a clearer
view of the parts you want to see. So far have not proceeded
to
make them into a parts book, but it could be done if there was
sufficient interest in purchasing it for some TBD price on CD-ROM.
The next thing that needs to be added is a table of threads.
For
example the four screws that hold the dial to the movement are 4-40
x
¼ (or maybe could use a little longer screw) round head
screws. There are some strange by today's standards threads in
these clocks.
No. 6 Battery Adapter v1


This is the very economical adapter based on 2" sch 40 PVC pipe and
test end caps.
Construction
of
Western Union Clock Battery Packs by
N7CFO.
If you're interested in getting a kit to build this adapter
let me know.
By putting two "D" cell batteries in one adapter the blue jumper
wire
in the clock becomes redundant. This also lowers the circuit
resistance. The parts used inside the adapter were also
chosen
for low resistance. The clock now winds much stronger than
when
two seperate "D" cell battery holders were being used.
It turns out that I already have the Rigid pipe cutter needed to
make a
clean cut in 2" sch 40 PVC pipe.
Now I'm trying to find the 15.5" Convex glass to replace the broken
one. See Fig 4 above.
30 Jly 2006 - running slow. small move right on adj nut 9:00:00 am
synchronized.
5 Aug 2007 9:00pm 5:14 slow in 6.5 days or 48 sec/day _> 1/2 turn
Right
a couple of rough adjustments
29 sep 2007 sync at 3:00 pm
1 Oct 2007 - clock slow by 4-1/2 min or 135 seconds per day. one
turn
on nut right
Need
Sound Deadending material to go into
front cover. The battleship gray cover has the material, but
it's
been removed from this clock.
1 each need the thumbscrews to hold the cover on.
2 each screws to attach dial to movement
Questionable Packing

The box arrived crushed by a couple of
inches. A box this size probably gets put on the bottom of a
stack that's 8 feet high so needs to be able to carry that weight,
either based on the strength of the box itself or based on packing
it
so it can not be crushed, or both. I suspect there's plenty
of
bubble wrap around the clock but not enough to really fill the
box. The rule of thumb for radios is to have at least 4" of
bubble wrap on all sides that's taped tightly on each layer where
the
layers are at right angles to each other. Then the box
should
have stuffing at the corners and sides so that the item can not
move
around. Then the box can be cut down so the top just covers
the
item with more packing in the corners. When the box is all
tapped
up and shaken there must not be any movement of the
contents. If
there's any movement open the box and pack it tighter.

This is poor bubble wrapping. There's only one layer and
it's
loose, not tight to the clock. Thickness of bubble wrap
varies
from 0 to maybe 1 inch, should be 4". The rest of the box
was
filled with plastic peanuts. That would be OK if the item
had 4"
of bubble wrap and if the box was "tight" so that nothing can move
inside. If there's any movement the peanuts will crush with
each
shake, so it's a matter of time until they are completely
gone.
With heavy items the peanuts can be completely gone after a few
hundred
miles of shipping.
Note that shipping insurance is for protection from loss or
mishandling
by the carrier, it DOES NOT cover damage caused by this type of
poor
packaging. Many people don't understand that it's the
responsibility of the sender to properly package the item, not the
shipping company.
Really Bad Packaging by mickiecat1
Self Winding Clock #4

10
July
2007
- received today via Fedex ground. This is not the
fault of the carrier, it's unquestionably the fault of the
shipper.
This clock (s/n 59132) looked like it might actually run on eBay
and
had the very
hard to get glass installed.
In the photo you can see a fold to the right side of the box down
maybe
6". This is because the box was not full. Another sign
of
bad packaging.
Notice the
packing above included a couple
layers of
bubble wrap.
But this one only had some small pieces of bubble, but not wrapped
or
taped, just stuffed in.
The main packaging material was styrofoam.
I specifically asked about the pendulum being bolted down to the
clock,
since the eBay ad
showed
the
pendulum sitting inside the clock, which
was laying on it's back, and no bolts were visible. I was
reassured that the pendulum was bolted down. As you can see
it
was not. Sort of like putting a hammer in the same box with
something delicate and NOT securing them so the hammer can beat up
whatever else is in the box.
I've notified the seller, we'll see what happens. This is a
real
shame since the glass was in one piece when it was boxed. As
far
as I know you can not get this large glass anymore.
15 July 2007 no word from the seller in response to my emial and
neither of my two phone calls has been returned. On the
first
phone call I left a message. On the second call the phone
never
answered.
18 July 2007 - the seller has called, but we're having trouble
exchanging email.
Somehow she felt that Fedex would pay for the damage caused
because she
did not properly anchor the pendulum. I left negative
feedback
for mickiecat1 but it cost me a retaliatory negative
feedback.
The only one I've ever received.
The only worse packaging I've seen was when two lead acid
batteries
were put into one box with styrofoam. In that case there was
no
styrofoam left, it had all been crushed.
Note I did not unwrap the clock, this is how it came out of the
box, in
fact it's still partially in the box. To the right and down
out
of the frame there are sheets of styrofoam, not bubble wrap.
Please, if you don't know what you're doing, do not ship items
that you
will end up destroying.

The bob was tied down with a piece of wire when put into this
box. Only a half turn was used to join the wires and
with
a bob weighing 24 ounces, about the weight of a framing hammer for
a
big carpenter, you can be sure it will work it's way loose.
I put the "knot" back together. There are many scuff marks
around
the knot where the wire fought it's way out of the bob.
The clock frame and bob have two clearance holes for a 1/4-20 bolt
and
using a wing nut makes it easy to install.
Fig 3 at top of page shows this clock (s/n
59132)
running. The pendulum rod was bent, but straightened
out.
It has the single coil synchronizer. No synchronizer
relay.
A once per hour winding cam. This clock winds less than a
minute
before
Self Winding Clock Co. #1 winds
at 38
minutes past the hour. So it looks like the once per hour
wind
occurs at this time.
New Way to Know the Rate
17 July 2007 - When you have two of the Self Winding Clocks
running in
the same room one acts as an alarm clock each time it winds.
By
noting the start and stop time of winding for two clocks you can
check
their rate. SWCC #1 is within a few seconds per day, but #4
seems
to be running about 10 seconds per hour slow.
10 Sep 2007 16"45 - 3 min 11 sec slow in 56 days or 3.4 sec/day
slow. 3/100 of a turn on the rating nut is very difficult.
Better to work on the synchronizer
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