Chip Field Of View
& Video Modes
Night Lapse Mode
Lack of Support
FeiyuTech G6 Gimbal
July 16 New On App version
Carbon Fiber Extension Rod
While the Nikon D300s camera will record videos,
it's very hard to use. Mainly because the eye-level
finder goes black when in live-view mode. In live-view
mode the only way to see what the camera sees is to either
look at the LCD on the back of the camera or use an external
HDMI monitor, neither of which is practical for hand held
camera shooting. In order to focus on the LCD monitor I
need to hold the camera at arm's length which results in shaky
I've looked a handycams and camcorders but to get the features
I'd like they seem to be over $2k. I just stumbled on an
ad for the GoPro (Wiki) Hero 5
Black and it seems to offer most, if not all, the
features. I've got one on order.
There are three models similar to the Hero5:
Hero5 Black has the front LCD screen and a larger rear
screen. (MSRP $400) Has: Touch display, built-in GPS, RAW
& WDR photos and all of below features.
Hero5 Session has no front LCD and smaller rear screen
(MRP $300) Has: Voice control, video stabilization, auto
upload to cloud.
Hero Session looks very similar to the Hero5 Session
Note the Hero5 Black is similar to the Hero Session but the
Session does not have the front LCD screen. The front
screen will tell you what's going on when the rear screen is
dark. MY guess is that to really use the Session you need to
couple it to a smart phone.
GoPro Hero5 Black
These are intended for sports video photography, but can be
used for all kinds of things.
YouTube: GoPro HERO 5
BLACK Tutorial: How To Get Started (mine has minor
differences from the video, but pretty much the same)
GoPro Hero 5 Black
Beginners Guide -
Connecting An External
Mic To A GoPro Hero 5 - GoPro USB-C to Mike adapter
(about $100) + Rode Video Micro
eBay: External Microphone Mic + Adapter + Housing Frame Case
For GoPro Hero 6 5 4 3+ Experiment <$10 has 3.5mm socket is
at right angle to USB-c plug (might hit gimbal?)
USB C Type C to 3.5mm Audio Adapter Cable Stereo Microphone
Earphone Converter <$14 has short cable with 3.5mm mike
I probably can use the Stereo Mike
or lavalier mike that fit the Nikon D300s since they have
Remove camera from frame and install battery then micro-SD
If you install the micro-SD card then the battery 3
red LEDs will turn on.
To fix that remove battery and micro-SD card, press
MODE button for a few seconds, then
Install battery THEN install micro-SD card.
If the battery is removed to charge and reinstalled
there is another problem in that when a USB cable
connects the camera to a computer the camera does not
appear. But . . .
If the SD card is removed, the replacement battery
installed, then the SD card installed the camera now
shows up when connected by USB cable.
A new camera ships with the battery at about 10% charge
which is a very good thing to do since the life of a Lithium
battery is decreased by hours stored times percent of charge
When you log in at gopro.com and enter the serial number of
your camera it will ask if you want to install the latest
My cell phone does not work at home and Quick
for Desktop v2.5.2 only runs on WIN10 - I'm using WIN7
and do NOT want to use WIN10. (22 June 2019: Ver 2.7.0
still only supports WIN10).
The GpPro app for Android phones is a way to upgrade the
camera firmware since the phone can connect to both the
camera and the house WiFi.
Imaging Chip Field of View (FOV)
The chip has 12 Mega pixels and is 4.5 x 6.2 mm in
The "normal" lens for a 35mm film camera is 50 mm, which is
slightly longer than the diagonal of the 24x36mm frame.
The diagonal of the GoPro Hero5 Black is 7.66mm so the
"normal" lens would be about 8 mm focal length.
Instead they come with X1.75, 2.6X or 3.5X
Lens Focal Length and aspect ratio. Wide is 14 mm,
Medium is 21 mm and Narrow is 28 mm.
For astrophotography the shutter speed to avoid star trails
Astronomy shutter speed Table
Note in the table below that the raw chip is in 4x3 format
and to get 16x9 format pixels are thrown away (they may be
distorted to fit?). So for the largest number of
active pixels use 4x3 format.
If the pixels map 1:1 then the 4x3 modes use the highest
number of pixels.
4 x 3 Wide
|4 x 3
|4 x 3
|16 x 9 Wide
|16 x 9
|16 x 9
Still & Video Modes
In still mode you have many options that should allow
taking photos of the night sky in time lapse mode showing
some number of stars. How many start remains to be
I made a 1 minute 11 second video of rain-hail in 4k - 60
fps. The file size is 262,767 KB. When
attempting to upload to YouTube the time remaining started
at about 1 hour 17 minutes, but the minutes kept getting
larger so canceled upload.
Still and video files can be transferred from the GoPro
to a desktop computer by using the supplied 22" USB-A to
USB-C cable. I have a 6' cable on order.
Night Lapse Mode
I haven't got this to work yet. My first try
failed in that the camera just shut down probably
because the battery died. That should not have
happened since the camera was connected to a 2 Amp Hour
Power Bank using
the GoPro factory USB cable. The Power Bank had
80% charge the next morning. See Fig 8
below. It may be that the power bank was not
supplying power. The power banks typically shut
themselves off if there is no load for some amount of
time. This may be a problem since a fully charged
camera will not draw much power. I have a USB-C LCD
charging monitor tester on order to confirm that the
Power Bank is providing power.
The Power Bank I used (not the ANNKE) does not
supply power to a charged camera.
The ANNKE Power Bank does show a + sign in the battery
symbol on the front of the camera, so it's working as
A daylight time lapse was started 2018 March 19 1:27pm
to see if the ANNKE power bank works for this
application. When taking photos of the setup the
rear LCD was black and the front LCD just showed the
battery. Pressed button on ANNKE and shutter release on
camera, now battery shows "+" and rear LCD shows
image. 1:35 pm now. 1:45 heard 5 rapid
beeps, so expect camera shut itself off. So the
daytime time lapse mode needs some setting that's not
part of selecting that mode. The file size is
2,249KB and when played runs in a fraction of a second.
There are only 10 frames (based on the difference
between start and end times). Note the camera's battery
has plenty of charge.
So . . . to get time lapse to work you also need
to find and disable "auto off" or whatever GoPro calls
that function. You'd think that selecting time
lapse would automatically disable that feature.
It may be that the power bank turns off if it does not
see a load.
GoPro camera be used to optically track satellites?
He's just getting started. Also see Seesat-l Digest,
Vol 75, Issue 23, 10:00am 5/23/2020.
If left alone and not recording after some time the
camera makes 5 quick beeps and shuts down.
Third party image stabilization
Go is specific to the GpPro Hero5 Black, Hero 5
Session, Hero HD(2018), Hero 6 Black and Hero 7
Black. It takes advantage of the gyro data that's
recorded along with the video. Requires that you
shoot with stabilization turned off. BUT . . . you
need WIN10 64 bit.
Lack of Support
This is an ongoing problem.
Just now I was trying to post a question on the GoPro
support web page, but had a problem with my
password. After resetting it and finally getting
logged in the window changed into:
HTTP Status 500 -
type Status report
description The server encountered an internal
error that prevented it from fulfilling this request.
The problem was the camera turning itself off, see: Night Lapse Mode above.
Another problem is understanding the LCD icons on the
front and rear screens.
|Fig 1 As received the camera and memory
Spare battery missing, marked as shipped.
GoPro Professional Guide to Filmmaking on back order
|Fig 2 Camera removed from Frame
Frame latched to shipping mount.
|Fig 3 Camera partially out of Frame.
Frame latched to shipping mount.
|Fig 4 Battery - Memory door open.
Slot is for microSD memory card. (class 10 <=128GB)
I'm using a 64GB card.
|Fig 5 On USB charge
RED LED at upper right = Charging.
RED LED at lower left=?
RED LED on back =?
|Fig 8 With external Power Bank setup
for Night Lapse:
Hero 5 Black - Night Lapse Settings
Camera battery went to zero even though power bank
was at 80%.
The supplied USB-A to USB-C cable is 22" (56 cm)
a little short for connecting to a desktop computer,
but OK for this.
|Fig 9 The Front LCD is active but from
the back it looks
like the camera is off.
The camera battery ran out, but the power bank was at
|Fig 10 Front in Night Lapse mode
|Fig 11 Under $4 on eBay
Mount Adapter for GoPro HERO 5"
TiltAll Tripod -
Note the flat and the curved mount bases supplied with
have double sided tape on the bottom (no 1/4-20
|Fig 12 Android WiFi connected GoPro and
|Fig 13 GoPro also has Bluetooth
connection to phone
|Fig 14 The ANNKE power bank works in
The "Power Banker" turns itself off when used for this
|Fig 15 "Power Banker" that does NOT
Note the LED next to the USB output is on,
but the camera front LCD is showing a battery
without the + or charge symbol.
|Fig 16 At the right are Icons that may
mean Night Lapse.
The manual included is written is very small font type and
is grey not black so impossible to read without a
line Hero5 Black manual is much better, but I can not
find out what the three LED are for.
I last used this to do some slo-mo on impulse
sprinklers. Now, June 2019 I'd like to document
things about the M-360
YouTube: Best Spots to Mount a
GoPro on a Bike: Mule,
Boom Mount in YouTube: 3 WHEEL FAT TIRE
ELECTRIC BIKE ADVENTURE!!! AddMotoR MOTAN M-350 Trike
If you know how I can get this boom mount Let Me Know.
This is an "11" Adjustable Articulating Israell Friction
Magic Arm" Model VGP-1704US-T1 SKU: X001RSJGZ5.
The center clamp knob both clamps together the two balls
with teeth it also tightens the ball joints on the end of
|Fig 1 Box
|Fig 2 Included is a smart phone mount
as well as a few
GoPro finger mounts. The pinch screw has threads
that are too long to function.
|Fig 3 Mounted on the Addmotor M-360
holding a GoPro Hero 5 Black camera.
YouTube: How to mount
your camera anywhere - based on Manfrotto parts: Super
Clamp, 244N Variable Friction Magic Arm Without Camera
Bracket, 143BKT Camera Bracket,
Note that the 143VKT has light
stand spools on both ends. These do not allow
locking in rotation. They are OK when the centerline of
the spool is plumb, but otherwise allow non symmetrical loads
to spin toward the ground.
Manfrotto 196-B Arm
It turns out this is not a "magic" type arm, but just uses
pinch clamps. Could not tell from the photos in the
Sectional stand, Frank G Grimler,
1907-04-27 - Goose neck with adjustable spring tension
Flexible positioner, Earl B Tesmer, 1947-10-17 - Goose neck
with on/off type locking
Articulable column, John E. Madocks, Thomas M. Young,
1989-10-17 - adjustable spring tension - "The disadvantage to
prior art columns is that they are not adapted to accommodate
the forces acting in the column. Consequently they tend to sag
when extended out horizontally to the floor and they are
difficult to adjust into new positions."
Flexible, articulable column, Ernesto E. Blanco, William
Schnorr, MIT, 1992-02-10 - Cited
by 351 patents - mostly for medical applications
(endoscope, laproscope, &Etc)
Universal arm system, Victor Agbodoe, Olaf Storz, Specialty
Surgical Instrumentation Inc, 2011-10-21 - has T-handle to
lock flexible arm
articulated arm, Bo Christensen, 9 Solutions Tech Co Ltd,
2013-03-28 - used to hold a light
The stock housing has a few problems that an aftermarket
housing can solve.
Lightweight Aluminum GoPro Vlog Case -
1. The stock housing does not allow opening the door to
access the USB-C connector. You either leave the door
closed or remove the door. The after market housing
has a larger cutout that allows opening and/or removing the
door while the housing is in place.
2. The Puluz housing also has a 52mm filter adapter built
into the housing so the filters
from my Nikon can be used.
3. There is no cold shoe mount. This might be handy to
add an external microphone.
eBay search terms "PULUZ Housing Shell Aluminum Protective
Frame Cage+ UV Lens for GoPro HERO6 5" or "Black Aluminum
Alloy Protective Case Frame Skeleton Housing for Hero 6 5"
or "GoPro Hero Frame 52". The 52 mm filter ring gives
these housings a distinctive look.
Luxebell Aluminium Alloy Skeleton Housing is lighter in weight
than the earlier model and also about three times more
many accessories for the GoPro camera. They have a
number of housings
for GoPro cameras. Quality products.
|Puluz Housing eBay: $20
"PULUZ Housing Shell CNC Aluminum Frame Cage + 52mm UV
Lens Cap For GoPro HERO5 6"
|Knock Off Housing eBay: $12
"Black Aluminum Alloy Protective Case Frame Skeleton
Housing for Hero 6 5"
|GoPro housing w/52mm UV Filter and cap.
Small plastic bag: GoPro finger mount +2 screws,
Cold Shoe + 1/4-20 flat head screw
|No back door. Camera is very
tight fit and almost impossible
to remove from housing. Not recommended.
|Puluz Housing with sliding back door.
Note spring loaded ball bearing
that snaps into cavity on back of door.
Theory of Operation
There is an Inertial Measurement Unit (Wiki: IMU,
Nav) attached to the camera platform and a second IMU
attached to the handle or base. The classical IMU
consisted of a platform inside a 3-axis gimbal that was
stabilized by three gyroscopes.
On that platform were three accelerometers all at right
angles to each other. By integrating the accelerometer
outputs you could navigate in a stand alone fashion, like in
a submarine where there are no outside inputs. The
next generation was the "Strap Down Inertial Navigation
The development of small quadcopters (Wiki)
has driven the development of miniature IMUs that no longer
use spinning gyroscopes but rather Micro Electro Mechanical
Systems (Wiki: MEMS).
These are just integrated circuits that include cantilevered
mechanical beams that can act like gyroscopes or
MPU-9250 Nine-Axis (Gyro + Accelerometer + Compass)
and the Bosch
BMP180 Pressure Sensor are available on a small PCB
for under $15 on quantity of one each.
ICM-20948 - 3-axis gyroscope, 3-axis
accelerometer, 3-axis compass, and a Digital Motion
Processor™ - in the $15 to $25 range for a PCB w/pressure
sensor on eBay (replaces MPU-9250)
In "Lock" mode only the IMU on the camera platform is used
to keep the camera pointed in the same direction, similar to
an excellent gyroscope pointing in the same direction.
In "Follow" mode the IMU in the handle senses how the
handle is moving and, depending on which axis is coupled to
the camera platform, causes the camera to move in the same
direction and by the same amount, but with a much smoother
motion. There are typically adjustments for how fast
this happens, with "sport" mode being very fast.
There is no image stabilization in the sense of cancelling
camera vibrations, so it needs to be turned on in the camera
or done in post processing. Also there is no
cancellation of the up and down motion associated with a
walking cameraman. There are add-on devices that
amount to scissors with springs to try and cancel that
up/down motion and these typically are "two handed"
stabilizers, as opposed to the G6 which is in the "one
handed" stabilizer category.
considering the Nikon Z6
Filmmaker's Kit that includes the Moza Air 2 Gimbal, but
I don't understand how it works or what it does, so am getting
the Feiyu Tech G6
for the GoPro Hero 5 Black as a low cost training aid.
It has both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth so can connect to Hero5 AND
Gimbals (and camera mounts?) can be described by the number
of hands needed for operation.
These are typically worn by people engaged in activities
where they need the use of both hands, like riding a
bicycle, motorcycle, skying &Etc. The camera is
configured and not changed during recording. The GoPro
was invented by someone who wanted to record from a
One Hand (1)
The support stalk has controls arranged so that they can be
operated by the same hand that is holding the stalk. The
more modern one hand gimbal systems allow the hand holding the
stalk to control not only the gimbal but also many camera
functions. This leaves the other hand free to do other
things. Vloggers have difficulty when they are trying to
do something on screen that requires two hands. They
might need an easy way to put the camera down such as using a
tripod on the bottom of a one handed gimbal. Another
option is the overhead camera.
Two Hands (2)
Professional movie cameras are heavy enough that the gimbal or
Steadycam requires both hands. This means you need a
crew rather than a single person to operate. There's
someone to carry the camera, someone else to operate the
camera and someone else to aid the camera operator if moving
Deal Killer Flaws:
1. Sound form the gimbal motors (mainly the one next to the
camera) makes so much noise that you can not use the build
in microphone for sound. A possible fix for this is to
use an external microphone.
To do this you need access to the USB jack. But . . .
2. There are two ways of installing the camera on the
G6 Gimbal. Either with the USB port against the motor
(so you can not use an external microphone) or with the
On/Off button against the motor so you can not turn on the
Hero 5 Black (This model GoPro does have a "Go Pro Turn Off"
command that works, but there is no "Go Pro Turn On"
command. So you need to remove the camera from the
mount every time you want to turn it on.
3. The Android "On" app that I first tried, and the latest
version of 16 July 2019, both failed to update the G6 Gimbal
keyboard firmware. That firmware was not able to
properly control my Hero 5 Black GoPro. The WIN7
software fails to function
4. There is no U.S. support of any kind.
|Fig 3 The 26650 battery comes wrapped
in plastic that needs to be removed so electrical
connection can be made to the terminals.
|Fig 4 Control Panel Side
Support - but they need to allow you to
join There is also a regular
Facebook page for Feiyutech. I was allowed
to post on July 8, but as of July 10 12:25pm my post
is still Pending, i.e. not on line.
Lack of Support
I can not update the G6 keyboard
firmware using the FeiyuTech On app.
I can not connect to a computer because the USB
drivers do no work.
There is no Feiyu Tech presence in the U.S., so no
My G6 Gimbal does not talk to the GoPro Hero 5.
When I try to update the Gimbal firmware using the On App it says it did the update, but if I check the keyboard firmware version number the app says unknown version and starts the update process again.
I tried to use the USB cable and my WIN7 desktop computer but the driver does not work.
I tried to email the factory service@.... but that email address bounces.
I tried emailing sales@... and marketing@... but got no answer. There does not seem to be any U.S. based support. The video tutorials have spolken English but the related screen shots have Chinese characters making them worthless to me.
Here are some screen shots showing the above problems: https://prc68.com/I/GoPro.html#G6
How to get the firmware updated and get the WIN7 software working, i.e. hot to get the G6 to communicate with the GoPro Hero 5?
|10 July 2019
The G6 talks to the GoPro when the phone is
See screen shot (Fig 8)
taken today showing keyboard firmware: unknown
See Fig 1 Failed USB
tried to email email@example.com
and that bounced, it's not a valid email.
I tried email to firstname.lastname@example.org
but have not had any response.
I tried to join the Facebook Support group and like
the email to sales am still waiting for a
response. Joined July 8 and posted by as of 10
July my post is "pending".
Just sent an email to
email@example.com (3 July 2019). My
email provider crashed on 9 July 2019 and is still
down as of 10 July 2019 12:56pm.
This is supposed to be a good gimbal for the GoPro
cameras. But suffers from the Chinlish (Wiki)
problem of not making any sense.
Removable 26650 battery. Have a couple of batteries on
order as spares. Already have chargers that will charge
the batteries outside the G6 gimbal.
The way the GoPro Hero 5 Black mounts either the connectors
are against the drive motor and are not accessible (no battery
charging and no external mike) or the Mode button is not
accessible (can not turn on). The Hero 5 Black has voice
control "Go Pro Turn Off" BUT does NOT have "Go Pro
Trun On". This is a PITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It
means you need to remove the Hero 5 Black to turn it on every
time you want to use it on the G6 gimbal.
A possible fix is to cut a slot in the motor face where the
GoPro seats and install a lever that can press the Mode
Assemble and Balance the Gimbal G6 - OK.
No spoken language just elevator music.
Functions of Feiyu ON
App - The screen shots shown in this video to not relate
to what I see on my screen.
up Phone (BT), G6 and GoPro (2.4 GHz Wi-Fi) -
Shows GoPro on G6 gimbal when G6 is powered on, so GoPro
must already be powered on.
As soon as "on" app starts it finds G6 gimbal and the pan
left or right commands from the app move the G6 gimbal
(i.e. Blue-Tooth pairing working).
On GoPro select: Connect then scroll down to
"wireless connection" The On/Off icon should be white,
if gray the GoPro airing process is needed. If
white do NOT change it.
Now "On" app shows "GoPro" or "Sony",
choose GoPro and on next screen select model "GoPro
5/6".The above may be wrong,
since at this point the GoPro does NOT show up on the cell
phone settings\WiFi list, so maybe the connection needs to
Touching "Wireless Connections" on GoPro causes On/Off icon
to turn gray. Select "Connect New Device", "GoPro
On Cell phone turn off WiFi in settings and then on.
Now GoPro shows up and when clicked pairs with phone, but
GoPro has not stopped trying to pair and times out.
When that happens the "On" app changes from showing the
GoPro to "Connect camera" or a while later "unknown"
* In this video they show going through the cell phone
WiFi pairing, but after entering the password shown on
the GoPro screen they jump to the app. The assumption
is the WiFi pairing is preserved. See sequence
starting at Fig 10, which
demonstrates the failure of the WiFi connection.
In my case the GoPro keeps trying to pair and when it fails
that breaks the pairing and app.
My WiFi connection fails when the app is active. But
in a prior try with the phone turned off the G6 gimbal
paired with the GoPro.
But now when I hold down the "setting" button and after
the scroll on the small G6 LCD it says Camera No Link".
|Fig 10 "GoPro"
(the pairing failed a few seconds after I took
|Fig 11 "Connect Camera" 2019/07/10
|Fig 12 GoPro failed to pair
How to Control GoPro
with G6 - after the above GoPro timiout and breaking
the WiFi connection this video does not apply since the
"setting" button is not working.
Basic Operations of
Gimbal G6 -
How to upgrade G6/G6
Plus firmware in your PC - G6 Downloads
- after USB driver update keyboard prior to gimbal
There is no spoken narration, only background
music and a video screen shot that's too small to understand
what's happening. See Fig 0 below
for how my files look.
Feiyu Tech Wireless
Control In One Hand -the "Hyperlink"
is a remote, not a cell phone. 25 June 2019 not available
The procedure to recognize the COM port given in the video
fails because my WIN7 computer (up to date on all new
firmware and software) does not recognize the device at all,
see Fig 1.
By documenting the problems 7/10/2019 2:05pm I have broken
the G76 gimbal to GoPro link that sort of worked when I
YouTube: Feiyu Tech G6
Review with GoPro Hero 6 - (noise from the gimbal motors
couples directly into the GoPro, so an external mike is
Using A Microphone With
FeiyuTech G6 - Requires USB-c to 3.5mm audio adapter
(about $100 from GoPro). See below for $10 External Sound adapter
eBay: USB C Type C to 3.5mm Audio Adapter Cable Stereo
Microphone Earphone Converter : short cable to 3.5mm jack
eBay: External Microphone Mic + Adapter + Housing Frame Case
For GoPro Hero 6 5 4 3+ : right angle USB-c to 3.5mm jack
The Best Way To Use a
Gimbal - Smooth Shots - Zhiyun Crane | Momentum
How to connect and setup Alexmos 3
axis brushless gimbal controller -
32 bit processor and IMU on drone frame and IMU on DSLR
platform. 2013 DIY DSLR gimbal.
G6 Review & Sample Footage -
USB between G6 and WIN7 computer. - Not working 1 July 2019
G6 Gimbal Review & Tutorial - connection starting
Starting with everything off.
1. Power on the GoPro. swipe down and select connect. Then
select Wireless Connections.
At this point there can be different menu options depending
on what you have connected to in the past. I have
connected my GoPro to their app, even though my cell
phone is now off and the app is not running, the GoPro does
nothing when I select Wireless Connections. But
scrolling up I can select Connect New Device and then GoPro
App which brings up the pairing screen with a Camera Name
and Password like shown at 7:00.
1b. Note the Hero 5 only has 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi and the G6
uses 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi. Newer models of the GoPro that
have both 5 and 2.4 GHz default to 5 GHz, so you need to
manually select the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi before proceeding with
this connection sequence.
2. On cell phone in Settings:
Wi-Fi: you should see the GoPro name and
by clicking on it a green check mark should appear
indicating the phone is linked to the GoPro.
Bluetooth: In Settings on the phone
should be turned on.
3. . . and turn on the G6 Gimbal.. 7:33 In the
Feiyu-Tech On App (not the Feiyu-Tech Cam App) First click
Motion Camera Stabalizer, then select the G6 (if it is not
automatically selected). Click on Connect. The
App should show something like FY_G6_92 (or FY_G6_ad) dlcik
on that name to see the Gimbal control window. (App
version in video is 2.1.18. My version (Me\about: is
3.2.7). There should be a bar showing a Wi-Fi icon and
the word GoPro. Click on that bar to activate the link
and select GoPro then after "Reading Wi-Fi List" you can
click on the name of the GoPro camera (starts with letters
GP followed by a bunch of numbers). You may need to
enter the password that was displayed on the back of the
At this point the G6 Gimbal record button should work to start
and stop recording on the GoPro.
Also Clicking the button on the right side of the G6 Gimbal
will increment the camera modes video, still, . . .
Holding down the Settings button on the G6 Gimbal should bring
up the 4 camera settings on the small LCD screen.
sliding the joystick left or right to choose which parameter
to change and using joystick up or down to modify and finally
to transfer the settings to the camera press and hold the
Settings button until the progress line has moved all the way
across the bottom of the small LCD.
------[ pause to charge cell phone, drained battery yesterday
trying to get this to work]-----
|Fig 0 USB
|Directory of WIN firmware after
expanding USB.Drive for Windows.zip.
|Fig 1 Fail USB
|When provided USB cable connected
between G6 (power off) and WIN7 computer
the window at left pops up saying:
"One of the USB devices attached to this computer
malfunctioned, and Windows does not recognize it.
Clicking on the highlighted line does nothing.
The only possible action is "Close".
|When the G6 is powered on with the
USB cable connected to WIN7 this error message
But clicking the message just brings up the above
|Keyboard firmware update from App.
When Got it is checked and Upgrade is clicked a new
window opens saying "Disconnect Camera from G6".
It is not clear if this means disconnect
electrrically, i.e. unplug cable
It means mechanically remove camera. I tried
that but then the gimbal motion goes crazy.
After removing cable between camera and G6 the
message still appears.
But the Gimbal is steady while the camera is
When upgrade keyboard is selected the Latest
When upgrade Gimbal is selected the "current version
is the latest".
||Make sure your camera is not
connected to the Gimbal!
Does this mean disconnect the
short cable? This message still appears
after cable removed.
Does this mean mechanically remove
camera from Gimbal? After doing that the
Gimbal makes crazy movements.
Need answer in order to upgrade
keyboard firmware to 1.12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3 July 2019 Answer: Turn off GpPro to break
Wi-Fi connection but leave it mechanically attached
to G6 Gimbal.
Note the progress bar moves a tenth of a % in about
a second so you can see that there is
On the first try it froze at 2% and I needed to
force power off on the phone and restart.
Even though the app said the upgrade was successful,
when clicking on Keyboard Firmware the window to
upgrade again appeared. When clicked on Gimbal
firmware it says "current version is the latest".
Try again to update Keyboard firmware (GoPro mounted
and cabled, but powered off). On small LCD
there is a diagonal line through the camera icon.
After the second upgrade the app still shows Current
Version: unknown. It does NOT work!
Also when the USB cable connects the G^ gimbal to my
computer I'm still getting unknown USB device error.
|G6 Gimbal F-Y App gray "x" on G6 -
but it pans from app and slider rotates camera from
Can not get to the above page to see warning about
Note in top row: FY_G6_ad and to the left a gray
"x". But the large button pans left right and
the slider rotates camera.
After a lot of fiddeling I was able to get to the
Make sure your camera is not
connected to the Gimbal! page and there is still a
gray "x" on the top row.
Wi-Fi between G6 and GoPro Hero 5 Black. - Not working 1
When powered on the screen on the G6 Gimbal
briefly shows something about WiFi, but I have never been
able to get back to that screen.
Even after the G6 gimbal recognizes the GoPro via Wi-Fi. the
GoPro screen shows the rotating rings for trying to connect
and finally says FAIL TO CONNECT.
The small LCD on the G6 gimbal does show the camera as
connected (n diagonal strike through line), but I was not
able to change the settings shown on the camera, only the
setting shown on the screen.
BlueTooth between G6 and Feiyu On Android App. Sort
of working 1 July 2019
|Fig 5 Camera, G6 and "On" app all
|G6 Gimbal linked to "On" app and GoPro.
|Pressing setting brings up GoPro camera
But . . . . it does NOT change GoPro settings.
Cable between G6 and GoPro Hero 5 Black. Do not know
if cable is just for DC or also for communications?
Communications not working 1 July 2019 - got coms working on
2 July 2019, but does not change camera settings.
1. Keyboard and outside interface
2. Gimbal operation.
|The G6 smart phone screen shows:
[a blue line that does not move, or moves very
|The "On'" app reports that the
firmware upgrade worked.
|Fig 8 10 July
|Current Version: unknown
Latest version: 1.12
*********************************** CRASH START
java.lang.RuntimeException: Could not read input channel
file descriptors from parcel.
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16 New On App version
| 2019 July 16 - new version 3.0
"On" app loaded.
The upgrade is stalled at 1.9%.
Powered down phone, GoPro powered itself off,
powered down G6.
Powered up phone and started "On" app then powered
up G6 (GoPro is off). Update started loading
at 10:09 am.....
|2019 July 16 10:19
Keyboard firmware seems to be upgrading . . . ended
loading at 10:19 (took 10 minutes)
4. (on phone screen) "The motors will turn off
automatically during the upgrade process." - no true
if you try to move any axis it is held by an active
| Powered off the G6 to
reboot. Phone shows Bluetooth Disconnect."
|2019 July 16 10:24 Current Version:
Clicked <cloud> and Keyboard upgrade.
Latest version: 1.17
Add yi camera support. (Required bluetooth firmware
So I upgraded again, rebooted again to see if the
bluetooth problem would get fixed.
Note before the On app update the "Latest version:"
was 1.12 now it is 1.17.
Also there is a new message "Add yi camera support.
(Required bluetooth firmware version 1.09)."
|2019 July 16 10:40
The second upgrade attempt had the same results as
the first attempt.
Current Version: unknown
Latest version: 1.17
Add yi camera support. (Required bluetooth firmware
Got this to extend the handle on the G6
Gimbal. Also got a small tripod for the other end that
uses a male 1/4-20 screw. But the extension rod probably
was made for the G4 gimbal and so has large threads, male on
the top end and female on the bottom end. So will need
an adapter from the large thread to 1/4-20 female. The
good news is that these rods and very light weight and stiff
being carbon fiber and can be connected to each other to make
a much longer carbon fiber pole.
Flange to Flange length: 14-3/8" (365mm)
Large Thread: 22 - 1.5mm
the wiki page shows the camera at the top of the stick with
weight at the bottom of the stick, i.e. weight
version was a horizontal bar with the camera at the
front end and weights on a vertical bar at the back.
By adjusting the weights center of the support gimbal was at
the center of mass of the assembly. So any
acceleration would only cause a translation of the rig, i.e.
no turning moment on the camera.
YouTube: Bound For Glory (1976)
Steadicam Shot - steadycam operator Garrett Brown
started out on a crane platform and after crane lowered him to
ground, he followed the actor.
Steadicam - Science of
the Movies - has footage of the first generation
system in use by Garrett Brown. He also has the sky
cam and the cameras for diving (drop cam?) and a submarine
that runs along a track below the lane in a swim meet.
The Steadycam patent application
US05/506,326 was split
into two patents:
1. The camera is mounted so that it is balanced in all
directions relative to the support point. That way
when the assembly is moved the camera tends to stay pointed
in whatever direction it was already aimed. See 4017168
2. The balanced assembly (item 1) is held by means of a
suspension comprising springs and shock absorbers to dampen
the camera movement caused by the operators foot
steps. See: 4156512
Equipment for use with hand held motion picture cameras, Garrett
W. Brown, Priority: 1974-09-16 - the support gimbal is
at the center of mass of the camera + counterweight. no
Equipment support system, Garrett W. Brown, Priority:
1974-09-16 - resembles a 2-arm desk lamp support with
springs. This removes the up/down caused by the steps of
Suspension system for supporting and conveying equipment, such
as a camera, Garrett W. Brown, Priority 1982-12-01 - Sky Cam (Wiki)
The idea is similar to the steady cam except it's
concerned with vibration dampening. This typically is
before active image stabilization (Wiki)
Antioscillation mount, Frank
W Taylor, Technicolor Motion Picture Corp,
Antioscillation mounting for optical instruments such as
telescopes, cameras, and the like, O'brien
Hobert W French, (not assigned), Aug 15, 1950 -
Optical sighting device, Paul T Kaestner, J W FECKER
Inc, 1960-06-07 -
Image stabilizer, Lee O Heflinger, TRW, Aug 12, 1969 -
inertially stabilized mirror
USB-C to Audio Adapters are on eBay starting at less
than a dollar. I got this particular version because the
title mentions "Microphone".
eBay title: "USB C Type C to 3.5mm Audio Adapter Cable Stereo
Microphone Earphone Converter" This also should work:
"USB-C 3.5mm Microphone adapter"
|GoPro External Sound with USB-C to
|Shown with door removed, but the
connector fits with door on.
I have more parts on order to add a cold shoe mount to
The above FeiyuTech G6 Gimbal couples motor noise to the
internal mike on the GoPro camera so an external mike is
desired. BUT . . . GoPro wants about $50
for their adapter.
Instead I got a generic USB-C to Audio Adapter on eBay for
under $15 including shipping. The box is marked:
USB-C Digital to 3.5mm headphone Audio Adapter.
I used it with an audio-Technica
PRO 24-CM stereo mike with a standard 3.5mm stereo
plug. Uses LR44 battery. Left and Right cardioid patterns
arranged to cancel opposite side, not back.
YouTube: Test first with internal mike then with external
YouTube: Test with
internal and external mikes. Done on Hero 5
This adapter is audio only, but they also have a version
that includes a DC charging input in addition to the audio,
but it's larger.
Nicholas D. Woodman (Wiki)
was the man behind the GoPro cameras and many of the early
patents are in his name. The first application was
surfing off Australia.
Nikon Cameras & Lenses
& . . .
Photography 101: The Basics
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